User talk:Stephen Ewen
war image
Hi David. Thanks for your contributions to CZ! Please do me a huge favor and review the images you recently uploaded. They lack licensing information. Please see Help:Images#Copyrights and kindly remedy this situation. Thanks! -
Unfortunately, I've looked for copyright information and found none. I have attempted to contact the person who used it and I am waiting for them to contact me. --David Marcoe 19:34, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
webcitation
I noticed your note about using webcitation.org for online texts but didn't know what that was so I clicked on the link, which timed out...
Webcitation sounds like a good resource/service, but this makes me wonder if it is reliable. I'll try the link again later, but I was wondering what your experience has been with that site. Thanks --Joe Quick (Talk) 11:33, 1 April 2007 (CDT)
- See http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,732.0.html Stephen Ewen 15:59, 2 April 2007 (CDT)
Need a little more information about a reported problem
You recently posted the following on my talk page: "Hi David. Thanks for your contributions to CZ! Please do me a huge favor and review the images you recently uploaded. One or more lack licensing information or has been uploaded from Wikimedia Commons and there is a problem with the author using a pseudonym. Please see Help:Images#Copyrights to determine the exact problem and kindly remedy this situation. Thanks!"
First, I wanted to make sure this was really intended for me, as my name isn't David. If so, then I can't find any problems with the images I uploaded. All appear to be correctly identified, and are either original to Citizendium, or had been previously uploaded under my own, non-pseudonym name at Wikipedia. If needed I can rescan the images, but if I was told specifically which ones were the problem that would be a big help. The articles in question are Telephone Newspaper, Reginald Fessenden, and Guglielmo Marconi.Thomas H. White 04:51, 2 April 2007 (CDT) Also SOS page. Thomas H. White 10:29, 2 April 2007 (CDT)
- Sorry for the name mixup, I was dealing with lots of the same issue. The images are problematic. Who took the photo? Who holds it's copyright? Is it in the public domain. If so, say so. If not, get permission. Stephen Ewen 10:57, 2 April 2007 (CDT)
- I believe each of the images is now fully documented according to standards. Thomas H. White 17:13, 2 April 2007 (CDT)
- Thanks, Tom. :-) Stephen Ewen 20:26, 2 April 2007 (CDT)
Images
Hello. Where seems to be the problem? All the images that I have uploaded have licenses that are in accordance with [1]. So far I haven't uploaded images from Wikimedia Commons or from people that use pseudonyms, so I don't know what are you talking about. The images that I brought here come from the Flickr website; all have Creative Commons licences (it says here that you can use "any Creative Commons license" [2]) and all have the real name of author of the image, not a pseudonym. Actually, I think that it should be clear in Help:Images that all images should have the real name of the author, since there are other sites besides Wikimedia Commons where contributors can use pseudonyms. --José Leonardo Andrade 09:19, 2 April 2007 (CDT)
- See Help:Images#.22Fair_use.22 and Image:AnnCoulter01.jpg. Thanks, Stephen Ewen 11:01, 2 April 2007 (CDT)
And...? Did I upload any fair-use images? I have nothing to do with that Ann Coulter image, I actually presented alternatives to the person who uploaded it (see talk page of that image). It seems to me that you are confused. --José Leonardo Andrade 11:26, 2 April 2007 (CDT)
- ah, it seems to me I am. I apologize for the trouble! Stephen Ewen 12:39, 2 April 2007 (CDT)
Regarding image for Julius Axelrod you flagged, the reference to US government was included. The WP template to US Government works has not been ported to Cz yet, as far as I can tell. If I'm wrong, I'd appreciate it if you would add that. Thanks. -ScottYoung 06:24, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
Re [3]
Thank you for informing me about Help:Images#Copyrights. To the best of my knowledge, all of the images I have uploaded include licensing information, and have either been released under free licenses or are in the public domain. Therefore, I assume that your comment refers to some images which I have uploaded from the Wikimedia Commons, whose authors used pseudonyms. Neither Help:Images#Images_from_Wikipedia_or_Wikimedia_Commons nor Help:Images are linked from CZ:Policy Outline or CZ:Project_Home#Policy. Thus, in reviewing the Citizendium's policies, I was not informed of the policies stated in Help:Images#Images_from_Wikipedia_or_Wikimedia_Commons. A link to these policies was added to MediaWiki:Uploadtext on April 2 [4], after I had uploaded the images in question. Moreover, the provisions regarding "Images from Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons" were added to Help:Images on March 28, after I had uploaded all but one of the images that were submitted to the Wikimedia Commons using pseudonyms. I do not regard Help:Images#Images_from_Wikipedia_or_Wikimedia_Commons as a corollary of the real names requirement stated in The Citizendium's Statement of Fundamental Policies, since it is still permissible to submit the text of Wikipedia articles, which are largely of anonymous authorship, to the Citizendium, provided that one intends to work on and improve such articles here.
Nonetheless, if the requirements stated in Help:Images#Images_from_Wikipedia_or_Wikimedia_Commons are to be applied ex post facto to images that I uploaded prior to their enactment, I can create a list of images that I uploaded from the Wikimedia Commons whose authors cannot be identified by their real names, which would need to be deleted pursuant to this policy. Alternatively, if this policy applies only to images uploaded after its enactment, only Image:Vernal Falls Rainbow.jpg would need to be deleted. David Ellis 23:22, 2 April 2007 (CDT)
- David, you are not to be blamed here in any way. The info about not uploading images from WP or the Commons from pseudonymous uploaders has been around since Feb 14 - see here - admittedly not in the best place, which is why I recently placed it in Help:Images, in CZ:Introduction to CZ for Wikipedians, and requested the techs put it at Special:Upload. As we are in a beta, we are admitting we do not have everything worked out - yet! I do wish it were possible to anticipate everything in advance! As for why WP text and not images - that is an interesting question you should perhaps raise further on Images Help and maybe the forums. We are relying heavily on users here to point out what may wind up to be "bugs". We really do welcome your help. In the meantime, I do really appreciate you tolerating a few inevitable hassles while we go through our beta. - Stephen Ewen 01:04, 3 April 2007 (CDT)
- The following is a list of the images that I have uploaded from the Wikipedia Commons whose authors cannot be identified by their real names, and would need to be deleted pursuant to Help:Images#Images_from_Wikipedia_or_Wikimedia_Commons:
- David Ellis 18:46, 3 April 2007 (CDT)
your input needed
Hi Stephen, could you help us figure out what is going in at macromolecular chemistry and physical chemistry? The discussion is currently at Matt's talk page starting at this secion User_talk:D._Matt_Innis#Macromolecular_chemistry Chris Day (Talk) 13:49, 3 April 2007 (CDT)
- Steve, I restored the deleted Macromolecular chemistry/Draft talk page to make sure we did not miss anything. Chris, it looks like everything is still on the original talk minus the approval tag, so not missing anything. Guess we should delete the article/draft pages as well as the talk/draft pages. I'll let Steve do it since it was my mess up in the first place. --Matt Innis (Talk) 14:15, 3 April 2007 (CDT)
Metal Gear Solid article
Hello, thanks for creating my account. Just now, I started the Metal Gear Solid article and am planning to expand it. However, I read here not to create orphan pages, which this article is at the moment. I created it from scratch, but on Wikipedia, it is a featured article, and is one of the more famous PlayStation games. Do you think that I should continue improving and expanding this article or would it be better to focus on one that has been red-linked from elsewhere? Thanks again. Oliver Smith 10:52, 4 April 2007 (CDT)
- Your choice, Oliver! - Stephen Ewen 14:35, 4 April 2007 (CDT)
- Great - I was just checking that it was fine to create orphaned pages. Oliver Smith 15:20, 4 April 2007 (CDT)
- Actually, I see you are probably meaning creating "stubs". You should see CZ:Introduction to CZ for Wikipedians for the relevant policy on that. Stephen Ewen 15:38, 4 April 2007 (CDT)
Blocking
Hi Stephen,
Hope I didn't interrupt any testing by unblocking some IPs just now. Just keeping a close eye on the blog log right now due to the issue we had last night.
Cheers, --Mike Johnson 14:49, 4 April 2007 (CDT)
Roger that. ;-) - Stephen Ewen 14:50, 4 April 2007 (CDT)
Image
Dear Mr. Ewen, thanks for your message. I will contact Mr. Snible and I will forward the email to you if he agrees to release it under public domain. Cheers! Soso Mamukelashvili 16:56, 4 April 2007 (CDT)
Thomas Jefferson image...
Hello Stephen,
I apologize for the Jefferson image. I have contacted the Library of Congress by phone numerous times whenever I would read "photo may be restricted" and they would always redirect me to general copyright information that was irrelevant, or the librarian couldn't find the copyright info for the photos in question. The librarian would always tell me that the photos were donated to the LOC and in the majority of cases the LOC simply didn't know the copyright status and that is why it was listed as "copyright may be restricted" as a legal precaution.
I strongly do not believe that the image was copyrighted because it was an aged photograph of the Jefferson painting located in the U.S. Capital. I would have contacted them by phone but all of the information that the library has about the photo is presented on the page. It's really impossible to get the copyright status for an image when it has the following label. I just wanted to clarify the issue to let you know that I care deeply about Citizendium complying with US copyright law.
In the future should I just ignore LOC photos where the copyright status is undetermined? But either way I will do what Citizendium directs but it's just a huge headache. Thanks for understanding.
Eric Pokorny 02:06, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
- Oh boy, do I know images can be a huge headache! Sounds like you were being directed into a black hole by the LOC. Can you show me the exact location of that image at LOC? — Stephen Ewen 02:12, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
Another image question
- Do you know if it is kosher to use images of foreign currency? I had this in mind.
- Also, I found this image on Wikipedia. It says that it has been released to the public domain but the uploader uses a nickname, so I'm not sure if I can use it.
Thanks --Joe Quick (Talk) 11:24, 6 April 2007 (CDT)
- Low resolution images of currency are considered in the public domain.
- To the other, with a little Cyber sleuthing done we do not need to upload that image from Wikipedia. Whois says the source of the photo, mazingerzeta.net, was registered by Marco Palma[5], whose first name appears (at least) here where you can contact him to ask him for permission to use the photos under whatever terms he chooses (I would address him in your message as Mr. Marco Palma as a way of receiving implicit acknowledgment of that fact and not having to directly ask him if that is his real name). In point of fact, we have no clue whatsover - no proof - that the pseudonymous person who uploaded them to WP represented the licensing information with integrity. The images could be pure rips. This is actually a part of what makes so many of the "free content" images at WP a charade, a house of cards. No one can actually use such images as free content unless they are tied to someone with a real name where things can be verified! It's a nightmare.
- But what I have described is I think the best path to us using the image. Contact the author. Ask him to release them or grant permission and then follow the steps at Help:Images#Images_by_permission_and_documenting_releases.
- — Stephen Ewen 11:46, 6 April 2007 (CDT)
Tim Chambers gets welcomed
Hi, Stephen. Thanks for the friendly welcome yesterday. Re. my professionalism, your point is well-taken. I need to remember to get out of the tshirt and jeans I wore when working on WP, and put on my coat and tie here. I promise not to use the s-word anymore unless I'm talking about vacuum cleaners. ;) <>< Tim Chambers 23:41, 6 April 2007 (CDT)
- Hi Tim. Thanks for the note. But do note our acceptance of casual attire! Here :-). — Stephen Ewen 00:07, 7 April 2007 (CDT)
Project Gutenberg
Thanks for letting me know. --Peter J. King Talk 16:37, 7 April 2007 (CDT)
whats your objection to e-mail off wiki?
or whats the reason to delete my short remark as I do think it can or is important?
- Only because the implication is because everyone MUST therefore have email enabled. We'd need a policy stating that for the other to work. — Stephen Ewen 00:51, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
undo
is undo :)
Copyrighted image
I'm not sure if you have admin privileges or not, but if you do, could you please delete Linus torvalds.png? It is a copyrighted image. Thanks, --Joshua David Williams 12:28, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
- Done. I am a constable. See this under "Constables" for what that means. — Stephen Ewen 12:34, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
- Thank you :) Also, I do not understand what the problem is with Image:Gnome_screenshot.png. It's placed under the GNU license, not Creative Commons. If I need to provide proof for this also, that's fine. My cousin took this screenshot. Thanks for your help! --Joshua David Williams 12:38, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
- Yes, you need to provide proof. Also, you need to provide it for Image:Linus_torvalds.jpg. I went ahead and did it for that image. — Stephen Ewen 12:50, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
- Okay, thank you for being patient with me. I'm not very good with the copyright information. I'll try to get a scan of my cousin's signature for the GNOME screenshot sometime today. --Joshua David Williams 12:52, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
- An email will work. It is just a screenshot in this case. — Stephen Ewen 12:54, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
- How about an IM log? I have that. --Joshua David Williams 12:54, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
- That will work if is screen name is his real name. — Stephen Ewen 13:02, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
- I use aliases in Gaim, so his name shows as "Clint" instead of his screen name. I'm not sure whether that's okay or not. I could always ask him to send an e-mail when he gets home though. --Joshua David Williams 13:04, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
- Sounds good. Just follow this. — Stephen Ewen 14:06, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
BTW, you can probably get permission for any image of Linus you wish. Here is his homepage and here is a unique historical photo you can ask him about. — Stephen Ewen 13:02, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
- That's a terrific suggestion! I'll do just that. I really wish to avoid using the same image as Wikipedia uses. --Joshua David Williams 13:20, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
- We have the same wish. ;-) — Stephen Ewen 14:03, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
Great job
You're doing a great job keeping on top of the copyright issues. Thanks for the reminder. - Annette
Thanks, Annette :-) — Stephen Ewen 20:44, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
GNOME screenshot
Shouldn't Image_talk:Gnome_screenshot/Permission instead be at Image_talk:Gnome_screenshot.png/Permission? Right now it's kid of floating out there on its own lol --Eric M Gearhart 00:25, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
- Heh. I thought that didn't look right LOL! Once again, thank you for your patience as I learn this stuff :P --Joshua David Williams 00:27, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
- The first redirects to the second. — Stephen Ewen 01:19, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
Images from the Principia.
I've added copyright information and a link to the Sacred Chao. The apple is from Wikimedia Commons. Since it wasn't published under someone's real name, I'd ask it be removed. It is Image:Apple of Discord.png. Sorry about the confusion, and have a nice day. I'll find a public domain apple or similar, later today. Michael MacNeil 03:20, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
- Real names authenticate transactions. Requiring a real name before using an image is not a uniquely Citizendium thing. It is a real-life thing, nearly everywhere. Although it is not commonly realized, free images released under pseudonyms are not very free after all. Thought you might like to know more of the rationale. —–Stephen Ewen 03:28, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
webcitation
Steve, when I clicked on the "archived" link on Anthropology, I get a connection error. Is it me, or is there something in the link? --Matt Innis (Talk) 08:05, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
Image:MOS_6502.jpg
I responded to your changes to this image at Image_talk:MOS_6502.jpg.
- I replied to your reply at Image_talk:MOS_6502.jpg. Good eye sir, good eye. --Eric M Gearhart 05:16, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
Dog approval
- Dog has been waiting approval a few days now. Are you able to do the honours? I cannot. David Tribe 08:32, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
- Matt beat me too it! Stephen Ewen 12:47, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
- Again:-) --Matt Innis (Talk) 13:10, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
Badimage
The badimage template is doing very strange things at Andrew Swinehart. Maybe it needs a restart. When I type at that user I switch to the Template page automatically. Its a recursion type bug I think. regards I dont think the user A S is out of line necessarily. David Tribe 19:59, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
Problem solved?
I deleted the badimage text at the user Swinhart and at the template. The stange problems went away. The History logs retain the old copies. David Tribe 21:06, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
Quiché reference
Thanks for the link. I'll definitely look into it - I'm pretty solid with matters of costumbre in that part of the world but don't know much about Evangelicalism (despite the fact that I lived with the pastor of an evangelical church, go figure).
Tecum Umam is almost done. Probably tomorrow. One more paragraph to fill out - bet ya can't guess which one. I'm waiting on a response about one really fantastic photo here, so keep your fingers crossed! --Joe Quick (Talk) 23:53, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
Permissions
What's the period I have to get the permissions until the images you mentioned are deleted? (I'm on it with the permissions) --Rion 10:38, 13 April 2007 (CDT)
- Technically, 0 days and 0 minutes. Stephen Ewen 12:21, 13 April 2007 (CDT)