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== The issue ==
== The issue ==


Should we use vertical (column-based; [[Biology/Draft|example]]) or horizontal (tab-based; [[New York City|example]]) templates for subpages?  The templates used, in case you're interested, are {{tl|subpages4}} and {{tl|subpages9}} (note, not for the faint of heart!).
Should we use vertical (column-based; [[Biology/Draft|example]]) or horizontal (tab-based; [[New York, New York|example]]) templates for subpages?  The templates used, in case you're interested, are {{tl|subpages2}} and {{tl|subpages9}} (note, not for the faint of heart!).


== '''Brief''' summary of arguments ==
== '''Brief''' summary of arguments ==
'''For''' a vertical template: nicely balances out the links on the left side and top of the usual MediaWiki layout (skin).
'''For''' a vertical template: nicely balances out the links on the left side and top of the usual MediaWiki layout (skin). For cases with many subpages there is unlimited room to expand down.


'''Against''' a vertical template: creates layout problems, especially with images, which are usually placed in the top right, where the vertical template would go.
'''Against''' a vertical template: creates layout problems, especially with images, which are usually placed in the top right, where the vertical template would go.
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'''For''' a horizontal template: tabs are a common, instantly recognizable navigation tool.
'''For''' a horizontal template: tabs are a common, instantly recognizable navigation tool.


'''Against''' a horizontal template: this creates "link overload" and "tab overload" at the top of the page.
'''Against''' a horizontal template: this creates "link overload" and "tab overload" at the top of the page. For cases with many subpages there is limited room to expand and the tabs ''may'' be too crunched, however, it can realistically accommodate 10-12 subpages<!-- which is probably more than enough for most articles-->.


Notes:
Notes:
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* The main considerations here are design/aesthetic ones.
* The main considerations here are design/aesthetic ones.


= VOTE HERE =
==Voting closed==


Vote for only one.  Vote to be closed Friday, August 24.
Voting closed Friday, August 24.
 
The vote is closed--the horizontal option is chosen.


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# [[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]]
# [[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]]
# [[User:Todd Coles|Todd Coles]] 08:05, 17 August 2007 (CDT)
# [[User:Todd Coles|Todd Coles]] 08:05, 17 August 2007 (CDT)
# [[User:Jitse Niesen|Jitse Niesen]] 01:51, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
# [[User:Anupam Srivastava|Anupam Srivastava]] 22:36, 21 August 2007 (CDT)
# [[User:Morten Juhl Johansen|Morten Juhl Johansen]]
# [[User:Carl Jantzen|Carl Jantzen]] 10:08, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
# [[User:Kjetil Ree|Kjetil Ree]] 12:04, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
# [[User:Michael Underwood|Michael Underwood]] 15:29, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
# --[[User:Ruth Ifcher|Ruth Ifcher]] 22:38, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
# [[User:D. Matt Innis|Matt Innis]] [[User talk:D. Matt Innis|(Talk)]] 09:57, 23 August 2007 (CDT)
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== Horizontal, or Tab-based ([[New York City|Example]]) ==
== Horizontal, or Tab-based ([[New York, New York|Example]]) ==
[[User:Arne Eickenberg|Arne Eickenberg]] 08:32, 17 August 2007 (CDT)
#[[User:Arne Eickenberg|Arne Eickenberg]] 08:32, 17 August 2007 (CDT)
 
#[[User:Robert W King|Robert King]] 09:15, 17 August 2007 (CDT)
#[[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 14:29, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
#[[User:Aleksander Stos|Aleksander Stos]] 16:00, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
#[[User:Joe Quick|--Joe Quick]]  ([[User talk:Joe Quick|Talk]]) 22:48, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
#[[User:Martin Baldwin-Edwards|Martin Baldwin-Edwards]] 01:55, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
#[[User:Nereo Preto|Nereo Preto]] 03:38, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
#[[User:Matt Mahlmann|Matt Mahlmann]] 20:15, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
#[[User:Oliver Smith|Oliver Smith]] 10:31, 21 August 2007 (CDT)
#[[User:Meg Ireland|Meg Ireland]] 22:04, 21 August 2007 (CDT)
#[[User:Andrew Su|Andrew Su]] 22:22, 21 August 2007 (CDT)
#[[User:Greg Woodhouse|Greg Woodhouse]] 22:44, 21 August 2007 (CDT)
#[[User:Jochen Wendebaum|Jochen Wendebaum]]
#[[User:Alexander Wiebel|Alexander Wiebel]] 02:31, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
#[[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 04:20, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
#[[User:Anton Sweeney|Anton Sweeney]] 05:51, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
#[[User:Andrew Fleisher|Andrew Fleisher]] 07:01, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
#[[User:Eric M Gearhart|Eric M Gearhart]] 11:51, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
#[[User:DavidGoodman|DavidGoodman]] 14:42, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
#[[User:Rilson Versuri|R. Versuri]] <small>[[User talk:Rilson Versuri|(Talk)]]</small> 15:15, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
#[[User:Roger Lohmann|Roger Lohmann]] 18:47, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
# [[User:Mark Jones|Mark Jones]] 17:25, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
#[[User:Ian Johnson|Ian Johnson]] 17:56, 23 August 2007 (CDT)
#[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] 14:07, 26 August 2007 (CDT)
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Latest revision as of 10:31, 8 April 2023


The issue

Should we use vertical (column-based; example) or horizontal (tab-based; example) templates for subpages? The templates used, in case you're interested, are {{subpages2}} and {{subpages9}} (note, not for the faint of heart!).

Brief summary of arguments

For a vertical template: nicely balances out the links on the left side and top of the usual MediaWiki layout (skin). For cases with many subpages there is unlimited room to expand down.

Against a vertical template: creates layout problems, especially with images, which are usually placed in the top right, where the vertical template would go.

For a horizontal template: tabs are a common, instantly recognizable navigation tool.

Against a horizontal template: this creates "link overload" and "tab overload" at the top of the page. For cases with many subpages there is limited room to expand and the tabs may be too crunched, however, it can realistically accommodate 10-12 subpages.

Notes:

  • The functionality of the subpages can be made exactly the same.
  • The main considerations here are design/aesthetic ones.

Voting closed

Voting closed Friday, August 24.

The vote is closed--the horizontal option is chosen.

Vertical, or Column-based (Example)

  1. Larry Sanger
  2. Todd Coles 08:05, 17 August 2007 (CDT)
  3. Jitse Niesen 01:51, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
  4. Anupam Srivastava 22:36, 21 August 2007 (CDT)
  5. Morten Juhl Johansen
  6. Carl Jantzen 10:08, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
  7. Kjetil Ree 12:04, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
  8. Michael Underwood 15:29, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
  9. --Ruth Ifcher 22:38, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
  10. Matt Innis (Talk) 09:57, 23 August 2007 (CDT)

Horizontal, or Tab-based (Example)

  1. Arne Eickenberg 08:32, 17 August 2007 (CDT)
  2. Robert King 09:15, 17 August 2007 (CDT)
  3. Stephen Ewen 14:29, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
  4. Aleksander Stos 16:00, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
  5. --Joe Quick (Talk) 22:48, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
  6. Martin Baldwin-Edwards 01:55, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
  7. Nereo Preto 03:38, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
  8. Matt Mahlmann 20:15, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
  9. Oliver Smith 10:31, 21 August 2007 (CDT)
  10. Meg Ireland 22:04, 21 August 2007 (CDT)
  11. Andrew Su 22:22, 21 August 2007 (CDT)
  12. Greg Woodhouse 22:44, 21 August 2007 (CDT)
  13. Jochen Wendebaum
  14. Alexander Wiebel 02:31, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
  15. John Stephenson 04:20, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
  16. Anton Sweeney 05:51, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
  17. Andrew Fleisher 07:01, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
  18. Eric M Gearhart 11:51, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
  19. DavidGoodman 14:42, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
  20. R. Versuri (Talk) 15:15, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
  21. Roger Lohmann 18:47, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
  22. Mark Jones 17:25, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
  23. Ian Johnson 17:56, 23 August 2007 (CDT)
  24. Pat Palmer 14:07, 26 August 2007 (CDT)

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