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Why do CZ articles sometimes fail to appear in Google searches? I looked at various CZ articles, created at different times by different people, looked at different variables such as # revisions, # contributors, creation date (sortable format, so later dates are numerically higher). For each, I typed this into a google searchbar, putting the exact article name in quotes:  "Exact article name" citizendium
Why do CZ articles sometimes fail to appear in Google searches?


What rank did each one get? The rank is the entry number; so if it appeared on the first page in the fourth slot, it got a rank of "4"; I counted subgroups too. If it didn't appear after a page or two of searching, I put 9999 meaning I didn't find it. My working hypothesis is: '''CZ's Related Article subpages CONFUSE Google's crawlers'''. They have trouble figuring what links to what. As a result, CZ's internal links are TOO COMPLEX and CZ's web presence is harmed as a result. Date is a big variable; organize it by date first, then article google rank second; there are no articles created in 2009 that achieved a #1 spot EVEN WITH THE WORD "CITIZENDIUM" in the search bar.
For method, look below this wikitable for notes...


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| [[Terrorism]]<!--Article---> ||200712 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||D. Matt Innis<!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||3/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 9999<!--Category rank---> ||8 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||a<!--Approved or Draft?---> || 3<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||<!--Notes--->  
| [[Terrorism]]<!--Article---> ||200712 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||D. Matt Innis<!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||3/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 500<!#What Links Here---> ||8 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||a<!--Approved or Draft?---> || 3<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||<!--Notes--->  
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|[[Lucille Ball]] <!--Article---> ||200812  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Paul Wormer <!--CZ creator---> ||4<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||3 <!--Category rank---> ||4<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||3<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
|[[Lucille Ball]] <!--Article---> ||200812  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Paul Wormer <!--CZ creator---> ||4<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||13<!#What Links Here---> ||4<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||3<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
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|[[Script kiddie]] <!--Article---> ||201002  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Thomas Wright Sulcer <!--CZ creator---> ||<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||9999<!--Category rank---> || <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
|[[Script kiddie]] <!--Article---> ||201002  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Thomas Wright Sulcer <!--CZ creator---> ||<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||9<!#What Links Here---> || <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
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|[[Dana Delany]] <!--Article---> ||201002<!--YYYYDD created---> ||Thomas Wright Sulcer<!--CZ creator---> ||9999<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 1<!--Category rank---> || 2<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
|[[Dana Delany]] <!--Article---> ||201002<!--YYYYDD created---> ||Thomas Wright Sulcer<!--CZ creator---> ||8<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 1<!#What Links Here---> || 2<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
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|[[Lady Gaga]] <!--Article---> ||201002 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Thomas Wright Sulcer <!--CZ creator---> ||9999<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||9999 <!--Category rank---> || 13<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||4<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
|[[Lady Gaga]] <!--Article---> ||201002 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Thomas Wright Sulcer <!--CZ creator---> ||9999<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||20<!#What Links Here---> || 13<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||4<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
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|[[Bromance]] <!--Article---> ||201003  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Thomas Wright Sulcer <!--CZ creator---> ||9999<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||9999 <!--Category rank---> ||6 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||1<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
|[[Bromance]] <!--Article---> ||201003  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Thomas Wright Sulcer <!--CZ creator---> ||9999<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||13 <!#What Links Here---> ||6 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||1<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
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|[[Albert Einstein]] <!--Article---> ||200611  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Nancy Sculerati MD  <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||3/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 9999<!--Category rank---> ||42 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||17<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||<!--Notes--->  
|[[Albert Einstein]] <!--Article---> ||200611  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Nancy Sculerati MD  <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||3/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 180<!#What Links Here---> ||42 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||17<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||<!--Notes--->  
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|[[Restructuring of the United States Army]] <!--Article---> ||200807  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Howard C. Berkowitz  <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| <!--Category rank---> || 54<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||5<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
|[[Restructuring of the United States Army]] <!--Article---> ||200807  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Howard C. Berkowitz  <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 175<!#What Links Here---> || 54<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||5<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
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|[[Solid harmonics]] <!--Article---> ||200708  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Paul Wormer  <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||21<!--Category rank---> ||22 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||3<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
|[[Solid harmonics]] <!--Article---> ||200708  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Paul Wormer  <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||29<!#What Links Here---> ||22 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||3<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
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|[[Plane (geometry)]] <!--Article---> ||200703 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||John Roby Clayton <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| <!--Category rank---> ||16 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||9<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
|[[Plane (geometry)]] <!--Article---> ||200703 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||John Roby Clayton <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 35<!#What Links Here---> ||16 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||9<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
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|[[Gaussian elimination]] <!--Article---> ||200905<!--YYYYDD created---> ||David E. Volk <!--CZ creator---> ||9999<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 1<!--Category rank---> ||8 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||2<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || Note: this is what appeared first on google: "CZ:Core Articles > Mathematics" not the CZ article; this came third: "Talk:Gaussian elimination"<!--Notes--->  
|[[Gaussian elimination]] <!--Article---> ||200905<!--YYYYDD created---> ||David E. Volk <!--CZ creator---> ||9999<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 9<!#What Links Here---> ||8 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||2<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || Note: this is what appeared first on google: "CZ:Core Articles > Mathematics" not the CZ article; this came third: "Talk:Gaussian elimination"<!--Notes--->  
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|[[Linear algebra]] <!--Article---> ||200811  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Barry R. Smith <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||9999 <!--Category rank---> ||2 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||1<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
|[[Linear algebra]] <!--Article---> ||200811  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Barry R. Smith <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||35<!#What Links Here---> ||2 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||1<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
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|[[Cloud computing]] <!--Article---> ||200807 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Ashwath Ravichandran  <!--CZ creator---> ||4<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 9999<!--Category rank---> ||117 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||6<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||CZ really first; three ads for CC came up first <!--Notes--->  
|[[Cloud computing]] <!--Article---> ||200807 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Ashwath Ravichandran  <!--CZ creator---> ||4<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 50<!#What Links Here---> ||117 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||6<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||CZ really first; three ads for CC came up first <!--Notes--->  
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|[[Horticulture]] <!--Article---> ||200612  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Nancy Sculerati MD  <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||9999 <!--Category rank---> ||13 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||7<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || "CZ: workgroup requests" ranks 2nd<!--Notes--->  
|[[Horticulture]] <!--Article---> ||200612  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Nancy Sculerati MD  <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||35<!#What Links Here---> ||13 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||7<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || "CZ: workgroup requests" ranks 2nd<!--Notes--->  
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|[[Business]] <!--Article---> ||200707  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Ian Johnson <!--CZ creator---> ||3<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||9999 <!--Category rank---> ||18 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||3<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || "CZ:Business Workgroup" was 2nd; the business article was 3rd - <!--Notes--->  
|[[Business]] <!--Article---> ||200707  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Ian Johnson <!--CZ creator---> ||3<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||112<!#What Links Here---> ||18 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||3<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || "CZ:Business Workgroup" was 2nd; the business article was 3rd - <!--Notes--->  
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|[[Truth]] <!--Article---> ||200805  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Larry Sanger <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 9999<!--Category rank---> ||11 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||5<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||Jacques Derrida, and Aesthetics came up #2 and #3 <!--Notes--->  
|[[Truth]] <!--Article---> ||200805  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Larry Sanger <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 35<!#What Links Here---> ||11 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||5<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||Jacques Derrida, and Aesthetics came up #2 and #3 <!--Notes--->  
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|[[Anthropology]] <!--Article---> ||200707  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Chris Day <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||4/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 9999<!--Category rank---> ||41 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||10<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || CZ:anthropology workgroup came up #9<!--Notes--->  
|[[Anthropology]] <!--Article---> ||200707  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Chris Day <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||4/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 370<!#What Links Here---> ||41 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||10<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || CZ:anthropology workgroup came up #9<!--Notes--->  
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|[[Applied social sciences]] <!--Article---> ||200803  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Roger Lohmann<!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 9999<!--Category rank---> ||15 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||6<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || Anthro:catalogs 3/10 biblio 3/10 rel art 3/10<!--Notes--->  
|[[Applied social sciences]] <!--Article---> ||200803  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Roger Lohmann<!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 28<!#What Links Here---> ||15 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||6<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || Anthro:catalogs 3/10 biblio 3/10 rel art 3/10<!--Notes--->  
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|[[Henry Ford]] <!--Article---> ||200704  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Richard Jensen <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||3/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| <!--Category rank---> ||41<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||10<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||HF's external links, and bibliography were #2 and #3 <!--Notes--->  
|[[Henry Ford]] <!--Article---> ||200704  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Richard Jensen <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||3/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||45 <!#What Links Here---> ||41<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||10<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||HF's external links, and bibliography were #2 and #3 <!--Notes--->  
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|[[Nobel Prize]] <!--Article---> ||200810  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Daniel Mietchen <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||3/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 9999<!--Category rank---> ||9 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||4<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
|[[Nobel Prize]] <!--Article---> ||200810  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Daniel Mietchen <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||3/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||140<!#What Links Here---> ||9 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||4<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
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|[[Norway]] <!--Article---> ||200705  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Kjetil Ree <!--CZ creator---> ||2<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| <!--Category rank---> ||56 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||4<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||The Norway "Gallery" came up 1st; a collection of images about Norway. <!--Notes--->  
|[[Norway]] <!--Article---> ||200705  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Kjetil Ree <!--CZ creator---> ||2<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 135 <!#What Links Here---> ||56 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||4<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||The Norway "Gallery" came up 1st; a collection of images about Norway. <!--Notes--->  
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|[[Great Britain]] <!--Article---> ||200704  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Richard Jensen <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||3/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 9999<!--Category rank---> ||39 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||6<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
|[[Great Britain]] <!--Article---> ||200704  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Richard Jensen <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||3/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||150 <!#What Links Here---> ||39 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||6<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
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|[[United Kingdom]] <!--Article---> ||200611  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Rilson Versuri <!--CZ creator---> ||2<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 9999<!--Category rank---> ||163 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||22<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||What came first? "Parliament of the United Kingdom - encyclopedia article - Citizendium" Why? "Catalogs" came 3rd.<!--Notes--->  
|[[United Kingdom]] <!--Article---> ||200611  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Rilson Versuri <!--CZ creator---> ||2<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 1000<!#What Links Here---> ||163 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||22<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||What came first? "Parliament of the United Kingdom - encyclopedia article - Citizendium" Why? "Catalogs" came 3rd.<!--Notes--->  
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|[[Scottish Parliament]] <!--Article---> ||200801  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Gareth Leng <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| <!--Category rank---> ||12 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||4<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
|[[Scottish Parliament]] <!--Article---> ||200801  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Gareth Leng <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||39 <!#What Links Here---> ||12 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||4<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
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|[[Royal Palace of Holyroodhouse]] <!--Article---> ||200805  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Gareth Leng <!--CZ creator---> ||6<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 12<!--Category rank---> ||7 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||2<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||First: [[Royal Mile]] article on CZ; second: [[Edinburgh]] (external links); third: Scottish Parliament; 4th = RP of H (related articles) <!--Notes--->  
|[[Royal Palace of Holyroodhouse]] <!--Article---> ||200805  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Gareth Leng <!--CZ creator---> ||6<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 16<!#What Links Here---> ||7 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||2<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||First: [[Royal Mile]] article on CZ; second: [[Edinburgh]] (external links); third: Scottish Parliament; 4th = RP of H (related articles) <!--Notes--->  
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|[[Arthur's Seat]] <!--Article---> ||200801  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Gareth Leng <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| <!--Category rank---> ||6 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||4<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||Scottish Parliament article #2; Royal Mile article #3; Arthur's Seat external links comes #7 <!--Notes--->  
|[[Arthur's Seat]] <!--Article---> ||200801  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Gareth Leng <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||19 <!#What Links Here---> ||6 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||4<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||Scottish Parliament article #2; Royal Mile article #3; Arthur's Seat external links comes #7 <!--Notes--->  
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|[[Photosynthesis]] <!--Article---> ||200808 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Anthony.Sebastian <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| <!--Category rank---> ||108 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||6<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||Photosynthesis "Gallery" comes #2 <!--Notes--->  
|[[Photosynthesis]] <!--Article---> ||200808 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Anthony.Sebastian <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||90 <!#What Links Here---> ||108 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||6<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||Photosynthesis "Gallery" comes #2 <!--Notes--->  
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|[[Handyman]] <!--Article---> ||201002  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Thomas Wright Sulcer  <!--CZ creator---> ||9999<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| <!--Category rank---> ||24 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||2<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || CZ's [[Cottage industry]] comes 1st; [[Tool]] related articles comes #5<!--Notes--->  
|[[Handyman]] <!--Article---> ||201002  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Thomas Wright Sulcer  <!--CZ creator---> ||9999<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||12 <!#What Links Here---> ||24 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||2<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || CZ's [[Cottage industry]] comes 1st; [[Tool]] related articles comes #5<!--Notes--->  
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|[[Guitar]] <!--Article---> ||200810 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Kiryl Rusetski <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 9999<!--Category rank---> ||10 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||7<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
|[[Guitar]] <!--Article---> ||200810 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Kiryl Rusetski <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 125<!#What Links Here---> ||10 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||7<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
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|[[Hierarchical clustering]] <!--Article---> ||200911  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Daniel Mietchen  <!--CZ creator---> ||3<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| <!--Category rank---> || 7<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||2<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || CZ article "Bioinformatics - encyclopedia article - Citizendium" comes 1st; the talk page of Hc comes about 8th.<!--Notes--->  
|[[Hierarchical clustering]] <!--Article---> ||200911  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Daniel Mietchen  <!--CZ creator---> ||3<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||10 <!#What Links Here---> || 7<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||2<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || CZ article "Bioinformatics - encyclopedia article - Citizendium" comes 1st; the talk page of Hc comes about 8th.<!--Notes--->  
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|[[Human]] <!--Article---> ||200710 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Philippe Tusler<!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||4/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| <!--Category rank---> ||9<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||6<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
|[[Human]] <!--Article---> ||200710 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Philippe Tusler<!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||4/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||380 <!#What Links Here---> ||9<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||6<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
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|[[Chimpanzee]] <!--Article---> ||200802 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Wilson Rondini IV <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||3/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| <!--Category rank---> ||35<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||7<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
|[[Chimpanzee]] <!--Article---> ||200802 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Wilson Rondini IV <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||3/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||44 <!#What Links Here---> ||35<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||7<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
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|[[Money]] <!--Article---> ||200706  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Anthony Argyriou <!--CZ creator---> ||3<!--Article Google rank---> ||3/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||9999 <!--Category rank---> ||12 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||5<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||"Money supply" on CZ came up first, "Monetarism" came up 2nd <!--Notes--->  
|[[Money]] <!--Article---> ||200706  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Anthony Argyriou <!--CZ creator---> ||3<!--Article Google rank---> ||3/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||40 <!#What Links Here---> ||12 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||5<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||"Money supply" on CZ came up first, "Monetarism" came up 2nd <!--Notes--->  
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|[[Money supply]]<!--Article [[]]---> ||200811 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Nick Gardner<!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||3/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| <!--Category rank---> ||11<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||2<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
|[[Money supply]]<!--Article [[]]---> ||200811 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Nick Gardner<!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||3/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||50 <!#What Links Here---> ||11<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||2<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
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===Notes===
===Notes===


NOte: after the first 5 or 10 pages of a google search, I stopped looking, and would put down "rank" as 9999, meaning "I didn't find it"
I looked at various CZ articles, created at different times by different people, looked at different variables such as # revisions, # contributors, creation date (sortable format, so later dates are numerically higher). For each, I typed this into a google searchbar, putting the exact article name in quotes: 


Note: CZ contributors INCLUDES bots (since a Google crawler probably can't tell the difference between a person and a bot)
"Exact article name" citizendium


Shell for adding more:
What rank did each one get? The rank is the entry number; so if it appeared on the first page in the fourth slot, it got a rank of "4"; I counted subgroups too. This is my ranking by checking it out on google. If it didn't appear after a page or two of searching, I put 9999 meaning I didn't find it.


<!--- |[[]] <!--Article ---> || <!--YYYYDD created---> ||<!--CZ creator---> ||<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| <!--Category rank---> ||<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes---> --->
A second measure is Google's "PageRank" -- by plugging an article title into the Google PageRank tool, a number comes out -- 10 is highest, 0 is lowest.
 
The variable "what links here"; just go to any CZ article, and click on the box under tools that says "what links here". This is a rough guess based on scrolling through pages. I think this is an important variable.
 
My working hypothesis is: '''CZ's Related Article subpages CONFUSE Google's crawlers'''. They have trouble figuring what links to what. As a result, CZ's internal links are TOO COMPLEX and CZ's web presence is harmed as a result. Date is a big variable; organize it by date first, then article google rank second; there are no articles created in 2009 that achieved a #1 spot EVEN WITH THE WORD "CITIZENDIUM" in the search bar.
 
A recommendation which I think we should do: don't block google crawlers from user pages. The links from user pages to articles is a big source of strength for us. If there are some CZ users who want to have their user page "private" and unsearchable, then maybe some special arrangement can be made. But this seems to be an easy, straightforward recommendation that would help considerably.
 
 
 
Shell for adding more data:
 
<!--- | <!--Article [[]]---> || <!--YYYYDD created---> ||<!--CZ creator---> ||<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| <!#What Links Here---> ||<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->  
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Revision as of 22:39, 19 March 2010

Why do CZ articles sometimes fail to appear in Google searches?

For method, look below this wikitable for notes...

CZ article title Date created (eg 200707 = July 2007) CZ creator Article's Google rank (1=BEST) (9999=doesn't appear) Google PageRank 10/10=BEST 0/10=totally obscure # CZ articles "What links here" (est) Number of CZ revisions approved (a) or draft (d) # CZ contributors (people) (est) Notes
Terrorism 200712 D. Matt Innis 1 3/10 500<!#What Links Here---> 8 a 3
Lucille Ball 200812 Paul Wormer 4 0/10 13<!#What Links Here---> 4 d 3
Script kiddie 201002 Thomas Wright Sulcer 0/10 9<!#What Links Here---> d
Dana Delany 201002 Thomas Wright Sulcer 8 0/10 1<!#What Links Here---> 2 d
Lady Gaga 201002 Thomas Wright Sulcer 9999 0/10 20<!#What Links Here---> 13 d 4
Bromance 201003 Thomas Wright Sulcer 9999 0/10 13 <!#What Links Here---> 6 d 1
Albert Einstein 200611 Nancy Sculerati MD 1 3/10 180<!#What Links Here---> 42 d 17
Restructuring of the United States Army 200807 Howard C. Berkowitz 1 2/10 175<!#What Links Here---> 54 d 5
Solid harmonics 200708 Paul Wormer 1 0/10 29<!#What Links Here---> 22 d 3
Plane (geometry) 200703 John Roby Clayton 1 0/10 35<!#What Links Here---> 16 d 9
Gaussian elimination 200905 David E. Volk 9999 0/10 9<!#What Links Here---> 8 d 2 Note: this is what appeared first on google: "CZ:Core Articles > Mathematics" not the CZ article; this came third: "Talk:Gaussian elimination"
Linear algebra 200811 Barry R. Smith 1 2/10 35<!#What Links Here---> 2 d 1
Cloud computing 200807 Ashwath Ravichandran 4 2/10 50<!#What Links Here---> 117 d 6 CZ really first; three ads for CC came up first
Horticulture 200612 Nancy Sculerati MD 1 2/10 35<!#What Links Here---> 13 d 7 "CZ: workgroup requests" ranks 2nd
Business 200707 Ian Johnson 3 0/10 112<!#What Links Here---> 18 d 3 "CZ:Business Workgroup" was 2nd; the business article was 3rd -
Truth 200805 Larry Sanger 1 2/10 35<!#What Links Here---> 11 d 5 Jacques Derrida, and Aesthetics came up #2 and #3
Anthropology 200707 Chris Day 1 4/10 370<!#What Links Here---> 41 d 10 CZ:anthropology workgroup came up #9
Applied social sciences 200803 Roger Lohmann 1 2/10 28<!#What Links Here---> 15 d 6 Anthro:catalogs 3/10 biblio 3/10 rel art 3/10
Henry Ford 200704 Richard Jensen 1 3/10 45 <!#What Links Here---> 41 d 10 HF's external links, and bibliography were #2 and #3
Nobel Prize 200810 Daniel Mietchen 1 3/10 140<!#What Links Here---> 9 d 4
Norway 200705 Kjetil Ree 2 0/10 135 <!#What Links Here---> 56 d 4 The Norway "Gallery" came up 1st; a collection of images about Norway.
Great Britain 200704 Richard Jensen 1 3/10 150 <!#What Links Here---> 39 d 6
United Kingdom 200611 Rilson Versuri 2 0/10 1000<!#What Links Here---> 163 d 22 What came first? "Parliament of the United Kingdom - encyclopedia article - Citizendium" Why? "Catalogs" came 3rd.
Scottish Parliament 200801 Gareth Leng 1 2/10 39 <!#What Links Here---> 12 d 4
Royal Palace of Holyroodhouse 200805 Gareth Leng 6 0/10 16<!#What Links Here---> 7 d 2 First: Royal Mile article on CZ; second: Edinburgh (external links); third: Scottish Parliament; 4th = RP of H (related articles)
Arthur's Seat 200801 Gareth Leng 1 0/10 19 <!#What Links Here---> 6 d 4 Scottish Parliament article #2; Royal Mile article #3; Arthur's Seat external links comes #7
Photosynthesis 200808 Anthony.Sebastian 1 2/10 90 <!#What Links Here---> 108 d 6 Photosynthesis "Gallery" comes #2
Handyman 201002 Thomas Wright Sulcer 9999 0/10 12 <!#What Links Here---> 24 d 2 CZ's Cottage industry comes 1st; Tool related articles comes #5
Guitar 200810 Kiryl Rusetski 1 0/10 125<!#What Links Here---> 10 d 7
Hierarchical clustering 200911 Daniel Mietchen 3 0/10 10 <!#What Links Here---> 7 d 2 CZ article "Bioinformatics - encyclopedia article - Citizendium" comes 1st; the talk page of Hc comes about 8th.
Human 200710 Philippe Tusler 1 4/10 380 <!#What Links Here---> 9 d 6
Chimpanzee 200802 Wilson Rondini IV 1 3/10 44 <!#What Links Here---> 35 d 7
Money 200706 Anthony Argyriou 3 3/10 40 <!#What Links Here---> 12 d 5 "Money supply" on CZ came up first, "Monetarism" came up 2nd
Money supply 200811 Nick Gardner 1 3/10 50 <!#What Links Here---> 11 d 2

Notes

I looked at various CZ articles, created at different times by different people, looked at different variables such as # revisions, # contributors, creation date (sortable format, so later dates are numerically higher). For each, I typed this into a google searchbar, putting the exact article name in quotes:

"Exact article name" citizendium

What rank did each one get? The rank is the entry number; so if it appeared on the first page in the fourth slot, it got a rank of "4"; I counted subgroups too. This is my ranking by checking it out on google. If it didn't appear after a page or two of searching, I put 9999 meaning I didn't find it.

A second measure is Google's "PageRank" -- by plugging an article title into the Google PageRank tool, a number comes out -- 10 is highest, 0 is lowest.

The variable "what links here"; just go to any CZ article, and click on the box under tools that says "what links here". This is a rough guess based on scrolling through pages. I think this is an important variable.

My working hypothesis is: CZ's Related Article subpages CONFUSE Google's crawlers. They have trouble figuring what links to what. As a result, CZ's internal links are TOO COMPLEX and CZ's web presence is harmed as a result. Date is a big variable; organize it by date first, then article google rank second; there are no articles created in 2009 that achieved a #1 spot EVEN WITH THE WORD "CITIZENDIUM" in the search bar.

A recommendation which I think we should do: don't block google crawlers from user pages. The links from user pages to articles is a big source of strength for us. If there are some CZ users who want to have their user page "private" and unsearchable, then maybe some special arrangement can be made. But this seems to be an easy, straightforward recommendation that would help considerably.


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