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==article status as of early 2007==
The WP article has lately been much improved, and the improvements have been merged into this version. [[User:DavidGoodman|DavidGoodman]] 20:21, 18 November 2006 (CST)
The WP article has lately been much improved, and the improvements have been merged into this version. [[User:DavidGoodman|DavidGoodman]] 20:21, 18 November 2006 (CST)
The improvements through Dec.8 have also been included.  
The improvements through Dec.8 have also been included.  
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:If this article was originally from WP, then make sure to check the "Content from Wikipedia?" box, unless you're the sole author of it over at WP.--[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 13:24, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
:If this article was originally from WP, then make sure to check the "Content from Wikipedia?" box, unless you're the sole author of it over at WP.--[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 13:24, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
:::I have unchecked the "from Wikipedia" because this article is undergoing substantial revision (or at least, I intend to do so very soon).  I've added the article checklist and done basic cleanup, but I think it needs a good deal of work before it's ready for primetime.  It needs better references for one thing.  Also, I want to look up the issue of legal wrangling; I seem to recall that Gutenberg was tied up in court for years due to disputes over who really invented the press.  Finally, I think the emphasis of the article can be improved to "tell the story" of this seminal invention, the politics surrounding it, and its importance in making written materials available to a larger public (written books were formerly done by hand and cost so much that only wealthy people and churches had them; the article as written does not capture the dramatic importance of this invention in history).[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] 13:31, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
::Very good.  Apologies!  Thanks for the FYI.--[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 13:51, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
== not the first in movable metal type printing ==
I was getting into a discussion at [[Talk:Naval guns]], and then I remembered - so I'm coming here now. Please see that discussion & then this link. [http://www.rightreading.com/printing/gutenberg.asia/gutenberg-asia-9-korea.htm here]. Thanks. ([[User:Chunbum Park|Chunbum Park]] 21:22, 22 March 2008 (CDT))
:Thank you very much for making the appropriate changes! ([[User:Chunbum Park|Chunbum Park]] 10:56, 4 April 2008 (CDT))
:For further reference, see this [http://www.koreanhero.net/fiftywonders/FiftyWonders_English.pdf PDF] in the first few pages about movable type. The website might sound POvish because it is the "koreanhero.net" but actually it's an essay contest based on readings on Korea published from the website. Korea had both brass & lead (the father of modern printing) - the Chinese invented the wooden block printing. Some people might be mistaken that the European printing method was better (actually I can guess it did get better at certain point), etc. ([[User:Chunbum Park|Chunbum Park]] 11:05, 4 April 2008 (CDT))

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article status as of early 2007

The WP article has lately been much improved, and the improvements have been merged into this version. DavidGoodman 20:21, 18 November 2006 (CST) The improvements through Dec.8 have also been included. DavidGoodman 22:20, 7 December 2006 (CST) However, the new Infobox did not work, probably because of the differences in templates. I have retained the old one, but I am not sure it will work better.DavidGoodman 22:23, 7 December 2006 (CST)

If this article was originally from WP, then make sure to check the "Content from Wikipedia?" box, unless you're the sole author of it over at WP.--Robert W King 13:24, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
I have unchecked the "from Wikipedia" because this article is undergoing substantial revision (or at least, I intend to do so very soon). I've added the article checklist and done basic cleanup, but I think it needs a good deal of work before it's ready for primetime. It needs better references for one thing. Also, I want to look up the issue of legal wrangling; I seem to recall that Gutenberg was tied up in court for years due to disputes over who really invented the press. Finally, I think the emphasis of the article can be improved to "tell the story" of this seminal invention, the politics surrounding it, and its importance in making written materials available to a larger public (written books were formerly done by hand and cost so much that only wealthy people and churches had them; the article as written does not capture the dramatic importance of this invention in history).Pat Palmer 13:31, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
Very good. Apologies! Thanks for the FYI.--Robert W King 13:51, 23 April 2007 (CDT)

not the first in movable metal type printing

I was getting into a discussion at Talk:Naval guns, and then I remembered - so I'm coming here now. Please see that discussion & then this link. here. Thanks. (Chunbum Park 21:22, 22 March 2008 (CDT))

Thank you very much for making the appropriate changes! (Chunbum Park 10:56, 4 April 2008 (CDT))
For further reference, see this PDF in the first few pages about movable type. The website might sound POvish because it is the "koreanhero.net" but actually it's an essay contest based on readings on Korea published from the website. Korea had both brass & lead (the father of modern printing) - the Chinese invented the wooden block printing. Some people might be mistaken that the European printing method was better (actually I can guess it did get better at certain point), etc. (Chunbum Park 11:05, 4 April 2008 (CDT))