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Given that there is no article at [[Caesar]] do we really need to tag ", name" on the end of this article. Similar to other name/title based articles such as [[Baron]] and [[Baronet]]. [[User:Derek Harkness|Derek Harkness]] 11:09, 4 June 2007 (CDT) | Given that there is no article at [[Caesar]] do we really need to tag ", name" on the end of this article. Similar to other name/title based articles such as [[Baron]] and [[Baronet]]. [[User:Derek Harkness|Derek Harkness]] 11:09, 4 June 2007 (CDT) | ||
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== "Jiulius Caesar" as a name == | == "Jiulius Caesar" as a name == | ||
There is a prominent [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J.C._Watts American politician] that uses the name " | There is a prominent [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J.C._Watts American politician] that uses the name "Julius Caesar". [[User:Yi Zhe Wu|Yi Zhe Wu]] 19:12, 16 July 2007 (CDT) | ||
:Interesting. :-) There's also a German politican by the name [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cajus-Julius_Caesar Cajus-Julius Caesar]. These two would be mentioned in the article [[Julius Caesar (disambiguation)]] or in an article called [[Julius Caesar (name)]]. This article here is only about those whose name was (or is) actually ''Gaius Iulius Caesar'', not even ''Gaius Julius Caesar'' with an anglicized ''J''…, i.e. (most probably) only people from Roman antiquity. Cheers. —[[User:Arne Eickenberg|Arne Eickenberg]] 21:48, 16 July 2007 (CDT) | |||
==approval subpage== | |||
I just added an approval subpage, some thing I have wanted to see for a while. I'm interested in feed back. Matt has seen this before but we never pushed to finalise the details. The primary reason for such a beast is to keep the approval related edits seperate from the talk page edits. It should make it a lot easier to reconstruct the approval history of an article. This might not be that helpful now but when these articles have been through multiple approvals and are serveral years old it might be advantageous. [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris Day|(talk)]] 18:29, 7 August 2007 (CDT) | |||
:Oh yes, a beast it is. I had already included the green approval-nomination template on the approval-page, but just an hour ago it didn't connect to the talk page. It took me a roughly two hours yesterday to get into all the subpage methods incl. the approval page, metadata etc.… and I '''love''' it… love the tabbed template 9… of course it increases complexity if you work on an article, especially during the final stage, but for the reader it's much better this way. In addition I found out that if you create all the relevant subpages right after article creation, everything is pretty smooth. No worries. (Probably. ^_^) PS: I will move the relevant posts from the talk page to the approval subpage. <span style="border: 3px solid #90ade3;">[[User:Arne Eickenberg|<span style="background: #bad1fb; color: #000000;"> Arne Eickenberg </span>]][[User_talk:Arne Eickenberg|<span style="background: #90ade3; color: #FFFFFF;"> talk</span>]]</span> 18:55, 7 August 2007 (CDT) | |||
::One more thing: Achtung — important feedback (~_^). It would be nice to be able to return to the article's talk page from the approval discussion. <span style="border: 3px solid #90ade3;">[[User:Arne Eickenberg|<span style="background: #bad1fb; color: #000000;"> Arne Eickenberg </span>]][[User_talk:Arne Eickenberg|<span style="background: #90ade3; color: #FFFFFF;"> talk</span>]]</span> 19:12, 7 August 2007 (CDT) | |||
:::That return link should be very easy to add. Hopefully, once the design is finalised we can make it much more user friendly. Thanks for the feedback. [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris Day|(talk)]] 10:05, 8 August 2007 (CDT) | |||
By the way, the subpages9 horizontal version is still crude, it is not nearly as refined as the vertical subpages2 template. Soon I will try and make it catch up. [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris Day|(talk)]] 10:08, 8 August 2007 (CDT) | |||
==ToApprove== | |||
I just removed the ToApprove tag that was placed on the approval page and placed it on the metadata page. See [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Template%3AGaius_Iulius_Caesar_%28name%29%2FMetadata&diff=100152483&oldid=100152480 my edit here]. Actually, i'm not sure if this has been approved or not since there is conflicting information between the metadata template and the approval page. I am assuming it is still in ToApprove status, although not for long. Placing the information in the medadata page puts the [[Gaius Iulius Caesar (name)/Approval|approval page]] in the ToApprove category as well as a ToApprove template on all the clusters pages. The constable that finalises this approval should blank the ToApprove fields in the metadata page and place the approving editors name in the Approved field (that will change all the categories and place the approved template automatically. However, moving this talk page to the Draft talk still has to be done manually. As does the protection of the approved article and the creation of the draft page. [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris Day|(talk)]] 02:51, 19 August 2007 (CDT) | |||
==APPROVED Version 1.0== | |||
Congratulations Classics workgroup!! Sorry for the delay!! No more vacations for awhile:) --[[User:D. Matt Innis|Matt Innis]] [[User talk:D. Matt Innis|(Talk)]] 21:35, 20 August 2007 (CDT) | |||
<div class="usermessage plainlinks">Discussion for [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Gaius_Iulius_Caesar_%28name%29/Draft&oldid=100148886 Version 1.0] stopped here. Please continue further discussion under this break. </div> | |||
== meaning or derivation of Caesar == | |||
I had learned somewhere years ago, that the words Csar, Caesar, Chess and Shah were all related to an ancient word meaning leader or king. Maybe worth checking on.[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 02:35, 10 October 2021 (UTC) | |||
==Peter's old comment (removed from bottom of the article)== | |||
I don't seem to be able to get into either talk page, so I'll have to comment here. | |||
The text above refers to the censorship of Claudius in 312 BC. My understanding is that chronology before 300 BC isn't precise to the nearest year. Is that right? [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] 16:46, 24 November 2008 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 13:04, 23 January 2023
Name
Given that there is no article at Caesar do we really need to tag ", name" on the end of this article. Similar to other name/title based articles such as Baron and Baronet. Derek Harkness 11:09, 4 June 2007 (CDT)
- Now changed. Caesar (as disambiguation, name etc.) is now in "See also". —Arne Eickenberg 21:23, 2 July 2007 (CDT)
"Jiulius Caesar" as a name
There is a prominent American politician that uses the name "Julius Caesar". Yi Zhe Wu 19:12, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
- Interesting. :-) There's also a German politican by the name Cajus-Julius Caesar. These two would be mentioned in the article Julius Caesar (disambiguation) or in an article called Julius Caesar (name). This article here is only about those whose name was (or is) actually Gaius Iulius Caesar, not even Gaius Julius Caesar with an anglicized J…, i.e. (most probably) only people from Roman antiquity. Cheers. —Arne Eickenberg 21:48, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
approval subpage
I just added an approval subpage, some thing I have wanted to see for a while. I'm interested in feed back. Matt has seen this before but we never pushed to finalise the details. The primary reason for such a beast is to keep the approval related edits seperate from the talk page edits. It should make it a lot easier to reconstruct the approval history of an article. This might not be that helpful now but when these articles have been through multiple approvals and are serveral years old it might be advantageous. Chris Day (talk) 18:29, 7 August 2007 (CDT)
- Oh yes, a beast it is. I had already included the green approval-nomination template on the approval-page, but just an hour ago it didn't connect to the talk page. It took me a roughly two hours yesterday to get into all the subpage methods incl. the approval page, metadata etc.… and I love it… love the tabbed template 9… of course it increases complexity if you work on an article, especially during the final stage, but for the reader it's much better this way. In addition I found out that if you create all the relevant subpages right after article creation, everything is pretty smooth. No worries. (Probably. ^_^) PS: I will move the relevant posts from the talk page to the approval subpage. Arne Eickenberg talk 18:55, 7 August 2007 (CDT)
- One more thing: Achtung — important feedback (~_^). It would be nice to be able to return to the article's talk page from the approval discussion. Arne Eickenberg talk 19:12, 7 August 2007 (CDT)
By the way, the subpages9 horizontal version is still crude, it is not nearly as refined as the vertical subpages2 template. Soon I will try and make it catch up. Chris Day (talk) 10:08, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
ToApprove
I just removed the ToApprove tag that was placed on the approval page and placed it on the metadata page. See my edit here. Actually, i'm not sure if this has been approved or not since there is conflicting information between the metadata template and the approval page. I am assuming it is still in ToApprove status, although not for long. Placing the information in the medadata page puts the approval page in the ToApprove category as well as a ToApprove template on all the clusters pages. The constable that finalises this approval should blank the ToApprove fields in the metadata page and place the approving editors name in the Approved field (that will change all the categories and place the approved template automatically. However, moving this talk page to the Draft talk still has to be done manually. As does the protection of the approved article and the creation of the draft page. Chris Day (talk) 02:51, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
APPROVED Version 1.0
Congratulations Classics workgroup!! Sorry for the delay!! No more vacations for awhile:) --Matt Innis (Talk) 21:35, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
meaning or derivation of Caesar
I had learned somewhere years ago, that the words Csar, Caesar, Chess and Shah were all related to an ancient word meaning leader or king. Maybe worth checking on.Pat Palmer (talk) 02:35, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
Peter's old comment (removed from bottom of the article)
I don't seem to be able to get into either talk page, so I'll have to comment here.
The text above refers to the censorship of Claudius in 312 BC. My understanding is that chronology before 300 BC isn't precise to the nearest year. Is that right? Peter Jackson 16:46, 24 November 2008 (UTC)