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Just saw that you had done some work on the Nathanael Greene article. It's had quite a bit done to it since it's initial approval, so it's probably time we get it reapproved. I was wondering if you could provide references for the quotes you added? I'm not questioning their accuracy, I just think it's nice to provide sources for direct quotes. --Todd Coles 22:28, 7 January 2008 (CST)

Nice to meet you Constable Coles.

I live in Virginia where Greene crossed the Dan River and where we have a permanent exhibit opening next month to highlight the Crossing of the Dan and the Southern Campaign. See this Web site: http://www.prizery.com/RacetotheDan/Exhibit.htm

The whole story is here: http://www.prizery.com/ExhibitPlanningOverview.htm

It's been so long now that I don't remember what quotes I gave earlier. Can you give me clue? I don't know how to review my earlier edits.

I've just now sent in an edited middle paragraph of the Strategic Retreat section. It's probably the same section I had sent in edits before. This version doesn't have any quote in it.

I thought the word "abandon" was wrong since he did go back to North Carolina. I also thought that the words "to cover the main army’s retreat and slow down Cornwallis" were completely wrong. Greene split his army with half - 700 - going north as a diversionary force to buy his main army time to get to the river further east.

If you'd like a subpage on the Race to the Dan I could do that or just add another section to the Strategic retreat.

Let me know what you think, Dan

Todd, Since my last post I spent time getting familiar with the process again. I now know what quotes I submitted earlier. I also went back to WP to see if the edits I submitted to the Citizendium Greene page were the same. Apparently they were.

Let me recap the sequence of events.

Because of all my research for creating a permanent exhibit of The Crossing of the Dan I had come across the WP site and found that it had little information on the subject. I thought it would be good to add what I had learned. So I did in October of 2006.

Later, I came across the Citizendium site and liked the fact that not everyone can change it at will. This, and the fact that the edits would be reviewed by a knowledgeable editor/constable, made me want to get the same WP information added here for safe keeping and further improvement. So I took all that I had written on the Strategic Retreat and the Race to the Dan and submitted it for the Citizendium page.

I checked a couple of times to see if it had been approved and finally gave up on the process.

Yesterday I checked one more time and saw your recommendation for attributing the quotes. Not doing the necessary research to see what you referred to, I just submitted some minor changes to the approved page.

Now I'm back to square one. I'll take your lead. What do you want done? Take all the information on the Strategic Retreat and The Race to the Dan and attribute the quotes or just leave things the way they are? I guess another option is to make subpages for those two sections and maybe even expand them. Doing that might provide a new topic linkage for the entire Southern Campaign of 1781.

There's so much to be added. More than I could ever do and the knowledgeable people that are interested in the topic are not going to be the type that would spend the time editing this database, at least for another generation or two. And that's my fear. As time goes by, the story will become more forgotten - old books collecting dust in someone's attic.

I see Citizendium as the only way to preserve this history and keep it interactive and relevant.

Give me some guidance. Dan Shaw