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Please note that I'm traveling to a funeral for a few days and will not be able to respond until Monday, Nov. 6 to any comments.--[[User:Jason Sanford|Jason Sanford]] 15:08, 1 November 2006 (CST)
== African American lit ==


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''Moved reply to my [[User_talk:Brian Sweeney|talk page]].''[[User:Brian Sweeney|Brian Sweeney]] 21:51, 1 November 2006 (CST)
Hi Jason,


I am preoccupied with non-CZ with stuff right now so I'll respond in brief. 
Responses also on [[User_talk:Brian Sweeney|talk page]]


(1)The sentence regarding Af Am lit's drawing on oral tradition preexisted my edits. My only contribution was to move it to another spot and add "sermons." It will take us more than a few days to document everything that every previous editor has ever put into this article. I welcome your assistance in this endeavor!
==Hey==


(2)Re: situating AfAm lit in broader transnational context; cf. Gilroy ''Black Atlantic'' (1993).  I am exceedingly surprised that there would be any controversy about this--any more than it would be controversial to situate Southern US lit in a larger national literary & cultural context.  To treat Af Am lit as a self-contained national tradition (as the original WP article does) without gesturing to its participation in a larger African diasporic culture is very 1980s.
Nice to see you here too :) - [[User:Francis Tyers|Francis Tyers]] 10:15, 16 November 2006 (CST)


(3)I deleted some "characteristics" stuff and relocated others elsewhere.  The claims I deleted seemed to me uncritically to essentialize Af Am literary production and in any case were unsourced.  (I retained a sentence about oral tradition which you rightly complain is unsourced.) My intention was to restore a much revised "Characteristics" section but in a form that emphasizes debates over the meaning of AfAm lit rather than conveys the illusion of consensus.
== Joan of Arc article ==


(4)Re: Length of lead--I don't think length is valuable intrinsically. The original lead was longer but was also needlessly repetitive and redundant; e.g., basically narrating the history of AfAm lit from C18 to present two times over, as you can see here [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_american_literature]. Moreover the original lead described AfAm lit as "is literature written by, about, and sometimes specifically for African Americans."  This is a highly controversial definition (I am thinking specifically of the third part of the definitions) and so I am going to move it from objective first paragraph to a later paragraph on debates over the boundaries of the tradition. (I'll be drawing in part on Claudia Tate's discussion of this in ''Psychoanalysis and Black Novels'' [1998].)
Thanks for importing the ''Joan of Arc'' article from the Textop wiki where I had begun work on it last October. I was afraid the textop changes may have been lost and I would have to re-do them. I have now resumed work on the ''Joan of Arc'' article which is in the top 0.5% of articles on WP as measured by page calls.  [[User:James F. Perry|James F. Perry]] 10:10, 7 January 2007 (CST)


These are my thoughts but you should feel free to restore information I deleted you think is of importance.[[User:Brian Sweeney|Brian Sweeney]] 21:51, 1 November 2006 (CST)
==Bonnie Hicks==
Hi. Please see [[Bonnie Hicks]] and [[Citizendium Pilot talk:Literature Workgroup]]. [[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 02:37, 14 January 2007 (CST)

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African American lit

Moved reply to my talk page.Brian Sweeney 21:51, 1 November 2006 (CST)

Responses also on talk page

Hey

Nice to see you here too :) - Francis Tyers 10:15, 16 November 2006 (CST)

Joan of Arc article

Thanks for importing the Joan of Arc article from the Textop wiki where I had begun work on it last October. I was afraid the textop changes may have been lost and I would have to re-do them. I have now resumed work on the Joan of Arc article which is in the top 0.5% of articles on WP as measured by page calls. James F. Perry 10:10, 7 January 2007 (CST)

Bonnie Hicks

Hi. Please see Bonnie Hicks and Citizendium Pilot talk:Literature Workgroup. Stephen Ewen 02:37, 14 January 2007 (CST)

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