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:::: If <math>p</math> is not dimensionless then <math> e^p = 1+p+p^2/2+p^3/6+\dots </math> is a sum of quantities of different dimensions. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimensional_analysis#Polynomials_and_transcendental_functions Does it make sense?] --[[User:Boris Tsirelson|Boris Tsirelson]] 19:32, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
:::: If <math>p</math> is not dimensionless then <math> e^p = 1+p+p^2/2+p^3/6+\dots </math> is a sum of quantities of different dimensions. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimensional_analysis#Polynomials_and_transcendental_functions Does it make sense?] --[[User:Boris Tsirelson|Boris Tsirelson]] 19:32, 26 September 2012 (UTC)


:::::Boris, I am not a mathematician and you have just lost me completely. In this article, '''''p''''' is the symbol for pressure and it may be expressed in measurement units (i.e., dimensions) of pascals or atmospheres or torrs or bars or kg-force per square centimeter, and many others. That is what I meant when I said it was not dimensionless. And that makes it perfect sense to me.
:::::Boris, I am not a mathematician and you have just lost me completely. In this article, '''''p''''' is the symbol for pressure and it may be expressed in measurement units (i.e., dimensions) of pascals or atmospheres or torrs or bars or kg-force per square centimeter, and many others. That is what I meant when I said it was not dimensionless. And that makes perfect sense to me.


:::::Also, in this article, '''''c''''' is used as the symbol for concentration and it may be expressed in measurement units of mols of dissolved gas per liter of solution, or mols of dissolved gas per mol of solution, or mols of dissolved gas per cubic meter of solution, or cubic centimeters of dissolved gas per cubic centimeter of solution, or many other methods of expressing concentrations. And that also makes perfect sense to me.
:::::Also, in this article, '''''c''''' is used as the symbol for concentration and it may be expressed in measurement units of mols of dissolved gas per liter of solution, or mols of dissolved gas per mol of solution, or mols of dissolved gas per cubic meter of solution, or cubic centimeters of dissolved gas per cubic centimeter of solution, or many other methods of expressing concentrations. And that also makes perfect sense to me.
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:::::Furthermore, since '''''p = k<sub>H</sub>&thinsp;&middot;&thinsp;c''''', the dimensions of '''''k<sub>H</sub>''''' depend on the dimensions used for expressing '''''p''''' and '''''c'''''. In other words, the dimensions of '''''k<sub>H</sub>''''' will be the dimensions of '''''p''''' divided by the dimensions of '''''c'''''.  
:::::Furthermore, since '''''p = k<sub>H</sub>&thinsp;&middot;&thinsp;c''''', the dimensions of '''''k<sub>H</sub>''''' depend on the dimensions used for expressing '''''p''''' and '''''c'''''. In other words, the dimensions of '''''k<sub>H</sub>''''' will be the dimensions of '''''p''''' divided by the dimensions of '''''c'''''.  


:::::Beyond explaining what I meant by dimensionless, I cannot help you any further. Perhaps, reading some of the references (especially, reference 7) might solve your concerns. Or perhaps you could consult one of the chemical engineering professors at the University of Tel-Aviv. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 21:31, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::Beyond explaining <s>what I meant by dimensionless</s> what the word "dimensions" means to me in this article's context, I cannot help you any further. Perhaps, reading some of the references (especially, reference 7) might solve your concerns. Or perhaps you could consult one of the chemical engineering professors at the University of Tel-Aviv. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 21:31, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

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I was a significant contributor to the Wikipedia article with the same name as this CZ article. I have reworded and rearranged some it it somewhat, added some references and conformed it to a CZ article. - Milton Beychok 00:35, 18 February 2008 (CST)

Approval of Version 1

Congratulations on approval of version 1. Please keep discussions concerning further developments below this section. D. Matt Innis 02:32, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


Approval of Version 1.1

The Draft has been re-approved to version 1.1. D. Matt Innis 23:15, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


Re-approval is again needed

I made some signicant changes in the "Temperature dependence of Henry's law constant" to correct the formatting of the equations and their parameter definitions in that section. It needs re-approval again. Milton Beychok 20:54, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

A mistake?

"" probably should be "". --Boris Tsirelson 21:32, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for finding that typo. I have now fixed it. Milton Beychok 17:23, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
Nice. I also bother about dimensions: are these and dimensionless? --Boris Tsirelson 16:35, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
Boris, I am not sure that I understand your question about dimensions. Just below the equation, the parameters are listed and noted that they have many different sets of dimensions. Then Table 1 lists the dimensions very often used .... but there are many others to be found in the technical literature.
and and are definitely not dimensionless. Shalom and good yomtov (a day late).Milton Beychok 17:16, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
If is not dimensionless then is a sum of quantities of different dimensions. Does it make sense? --Boris Tsirelson 19:32, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
Boris, I am not a mathematician and you have just lost me completely. In this article, p is the symbol for pressure and it may be expressed in measurement units (i.e., dimensions) of pascals or atmospheres or torrs or bars or kg-force per square centimeter, and many others. That is what I meant when I said it was not dimensionless. And that makes perfect sense to me.
Also, in this article, c is used as the symbol for concentration and it may be expressed in measurement units of mols of dissolved gas per liter of solution, or mols of dissolved gas per mol of solution, or mols of dissolved gas per cubic meter of solution, or cubic centimeters of dissolved gas per cubic centimeter of solution, or many other methods of expressing concentrations. And that also makes perfect sense to me.
Furthermore, since p = kH · c, the dimensions of kH depend on the dimensions used for expressing p and c. In other words, the dimensions of kH will be the dimensions of p divided by the dimensions of c.
Beyond explaining what I meant by dimensionless what the word "dimensions" means to me in this article's context, I cannot help you any further. Perhaps, reading some of the references (especially, reference 7) might solve your concerns. Or perhaps you could consult one of the chemical engineering professors at the University of Tel-Aviv. Milton Beychok 21:31, 26 September 2012 (UTC)