CZ Talk:Statistics

This is fantastic--I think I can speak for everyone when I say that this is very much appreciated, Alex. --Larry Sanger 09:59, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

Definitely Cool! Keep them coming. --Matt Innis (Talk) 10:32, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

Thanks. Needless to say that everybody is invited to edit this page, add his own work or make requests for further improvements, comments about the page, suggestions of new ideas etc. --Aleksander Stos 14:36, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

Terrific page, very informative. Maybe you could put in a slightly clearer explanation of #6, Is this the number of users that log in each day, averaged over a month? BTW it would be easier to edit if you could break the page up into sections. (Maybe I'll try and you can revert if you don't like it.) I think the main data that stands out as missing would be the number of visitors to the site, which could be presented in different ways. David Hoffman 16:09, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

#6 is the number of users that actually made an edit given month (no average, just count). Now, I put a line of explanation, but I'm not sure about it -- do correct it please if you find a good formulation! BTW, something similar to the number of users that log in each day, averaged over a month is the "daily use" section, but it concerns the actual edits instead of logins (no login info is publicly available). Thanks for your remarks! --Aleksander Stos 16:47, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

It is great seeing some of these stats. It gives me a good feel on how alive CZ is and how it is growing. Robert Winmill 16:12, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

Source file

To produce these stats, on May 18 I dumped the histories of edits of all pages. This was transformed into an xml-like file in a format similar to "stub-meta-history" dump files released by Wikipedia. I'm willing to share the data with the interested CZ members, so if you want to make your own stats, just let me know on my talk page. --Aleksander Stos 17:43, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

Further development

I've just put some fresh data (I plan to update graphs too). Please do copy edit. Perhaps reorganisation of headers/text would be needed as well. I'm willing to feed similar info in future and the present structure is not well suited for this. --Aleksander Stos 02:23, 10 June 2007 (CDT)

I love this, Alexander. Do you think you could graph articles by workgroup? Editors by workgroup? If it's not too time consuming, I'd like to see the progressions over time. Nancy Sculerati 02:23, 10 June 2007 (CDT)

Good idea! Give me a few days.--Aleksander Stos 14:32, 10 June 2007 (CDT)

OK, here it goes. I hope that's what you requested. But do not hesitate to point out if something should be improved. --Aleksander Stos 08:48, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

This is amazing, again--and getting better. I'd like to note that May was actually one of our first months where nothing was happening that would "skew" the statistics. November, launch. January and February, self-registration. March (late), launch. April, aftereffects of launch. Moreover, May is one of the busiest months of the school year. --Larry Sanger 08:56, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

I can only second. Alexander, do you have any way to estimate readers? After all, tht is really our ultimate goal, to provide the reader, rather than to exist for the user. Is that possible to know? Nancy Sculerati 09:12, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

You're right. A similar question was raised before, see here. Unfortunately, I have no data. Access logs to CZ servers are not publicly available. I do not even know how they look like or how big they are (if I had such a file I could try my luck). Nevertheless, some _relative_ (comparative) stats exist. They are produced by specialized enterprises like Alexa and rely the on data provided by an "army" of users of AlexaBar or something. According to them, the Citizendium is number 4 in the world of "open content encyclopaedias" (look at this) and during few days after launch we were more popular than Britannica ;-). However, it looks like we have to work hard to stay high in the ranking. BTW, you easily recognize the "big vandalism era" and the launch on graphs. --Aleksander Stos 12:19, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

Forums

Is there anyway data can be compiled from them? That's where nearly all meta-discussion occurs.  —Stephen Ewen (Talk) 21:46, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

Forum has its own statistics page, see here. It could be linked from here (done)--Aleksander Stos 03:04, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

Word count

Any easy way to make a total CZ (main space) word count? --Larry Sanger 00:06, 28 July 2007 (CDT)

Yes, at least approximately -- I put it on my todo list. BTW, it would be great if we had some database dumps/backups, something like this --Aleksander Stos 07:54, 28 July 2007 (CDT)

Well, I counted that. It seem that is it safe to assume that CZ has over 4,200K words in the mainspace. I worked on the "raw" wikitext (i.e. what we see while editing). The templates were cut off (so tables, boxes etc), as well as obvious technical parts (categories, images, www links). I counted refs and headings, however. Just a choice. Comments/questions regarding methodology welcome! If what has been done appears to be reasonable, we can put it on the page. --Aleksander Stos 08:01, 30 July 2007 (CDT)