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Below is a list of articles proposed for deletion. Let's put even obviously useless stubs on there and leave them for one month, during which anyone who objects can raise their arguments there. If after a month, no one has objected, editors can simply delete the article. If objections are raised, we'll see if an agreement can be reached either to keep the article, or adjust associated topics to work around the deletion.
When an article is proposed for deletion by placing '''<nowiki>{{PropDel}}</nowiki>''' at the top of its page, it is automatically added to the current month's sub-category under [[:Category:Articles for deletion]]. It will remain there until at least the 16th of the month after next (for example, an article nominated in January will not be deleted until 16 March at the earliest; in February until 16 April; and so on).


Please add proposed deletions to the bottom of the table below (create extra rows if needed). If you wish to oppose deletion of any article, please complete columns 5 and 6.
If immediate deletion is necessary – for example, the article is a hoax or a duplicate – that can be done by a sysop.  


'''Key abbreviations for use in rationale:'''
With normal proposals, the article remains in the nomination process for six to ten weeks, allowing time for anyone who opposes its deletion to commence a discussion on the article's talk page. When a discussion begins, the nominator may withdraw the proposal by removing the template. If the nominator still thinks the article should be deleted, the matter will be decided following discussion by a consensus if possible. If there is no consensus, the article will be given the benefit of the doubt and retained. It may always be possible to adjust associated topics to work around the proposal.
* PS = ''permanent stub'' that is unlikely to be expanded
==April==
* NN = topic ''not noteworthy'' (say why) and of no benefit to the encyclopaedia
[[User:John Leach]], in a recent email [[User:Pat Palmer|Pat]] told me your deletion efforts are all supposed to be consistent with the Citizendium's current policies.  I find them inconsistent with those policies.  Yes, of course, those policies can be changed.  However, until they are changed, don't you think it would be a good idea for you to explicitly explain why you are proposing the deletion of an article, or definition?
* MD = (option) ''move definition'' to specified RA page
# please offer your justification for proposing to delete the article on [[Allen Dulles]].  The man was not only a Secretary of State, he was probably one of most important Secretaries. [[User:George Swan|George Swan]] ([[User talk:George Swan|talk]]) 13:10, 7 April 2024 (CDT)
# Please offer your justification for proposing to delete the article on  [[Human Rights Watch]]  [[User:George Swan|George Swan]] ([[User talk:George Swan|talk]]) 13:16, 7 April 2024 (CDT)


'''Note: [[redlinked titles]]''' have subpages only, usually '''/Definition.'''
Normal deletion procedure is effectively suspended for the present because Pat and I are removing large numbers of articles which are, shall we say, unsatisfactory. Some articles like the two you have mentioned are unnecessary or not important enough, but our essential concern is the site's credibility. If you think a nominated article should be retained, please state your case on its talk page. However, the cleanup is a massive work in progress, and I think it is unlikely that any nominations or deletions will be reconsidered until it has been completed. We will then be more than happy to deal with future nominations by due process.  


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For your information, Allen Dulles was NOT a US Secretary of State. [[User:John Leach|John]] ([[User talk:John Leach|talk]]) 13:56, 7 April 2024 (CDT)
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:These comments do NOT belong here and should only be answered if made on the articles' Talk page itself.[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 17:46, 7 April 2024 (CDT)
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| rowspan="34" | PS/NN.<br><br>(''Note: I had these forty set aside for action before we decided to utilise this page.'')<br><br>All are fringe topics with no added value. Some may have been newsworthy in 2009/10 but no longer.<br><br>A few might have minimal redirect value but we are trying to reduce the number of redirects to essentials only (e.g., [[Hitler]]).<br><br>One "rule" (a "rule of thumb", really) I always have in mind is that membership of an organisation does not automatically mean the individual is noteworthy. So, while an organisation like the US govt and, poles apart, the Taliban are noteworthy organisations, individual members are '''not''' noteworthy unless by individual merit. For example, a top football club might have a squad of 22 players, of whom two are international players. Of the other twenty, some might be noteworthy on grounds of experience, but most will not be and a few might be reserves only.<br><br>Frankly, these are all stubs created for the sake of creating stubs. In my opinion, for the sake of our credibility, we need to remove all such unnecessary and mainly useless stubs, and focus our efforts on developing noteworthy topics that readers will expect to find, such as the ones listed at [[Forum Talk:Content#Missing topics]].  
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Latest revision as of 17:46, 7 April 2024

When an article is proposed for deletion by placing {{PropDel}} at the top of its page, it is automatically added to the current month's sub-category under Category:Articles for deletion. It will remain there until at least the 16th of the month after next (for example, an article nominated in January will not be deleted until 16 March at the earliest; in February until 16 April; and so on).

If immediate deletion is necessary – for example, the article is a hoax or a duplicate – that can be done by a sysop.

With normal proposals, the article remains in the nomination process for six to ten weeks, allowing time for anyone who opposes its deletion to commence a discussion on the article's talk page. When a discussion begins, the nominator may withdraw the proposal by removing the template. If the nominator still thinks the article should be deleted, the matter will be decided following discussion by a consensus if possible. If there is no consensus, the article will be given the benefit of the doubt and retained. It may always be possible to adjust associated topics to work around the proposal.

April

User:John Leach, in a recent email Pat told me your deletion efforts are all supposed to be consistent with the Citizendium's current policies. I find them inconsistent with those policies. Yes, of course, those policies can be changed. However, until they are changed, don't you think it would be a good idea for you to explicitly explain why you are proposing the deletion of an article, or definition?

  1. please offer your justification for proposing to delete the article on Allen Dulles. The man was not only a Secretary of State, he was probably one of most important Secretaries. George Swan (talk) 13:10, 7 April 2024 (CDT)
  2. Please offer your justification for proposing to delete the article on Human Rights Watch George Swan (talk) 13:16, 7 April 2024 (CDT)

Normal deletion procedure is effectively suspended for the present because Pat and I are removing large numbers of articles which are, shall we say, unsatisfactory. Some articles like the two you have mentioned are unnecessary or not important enough, but our essential concern is the site's credibility. If you think a nominated article should be retained, please state your case on its talk page. However, the cleanup is a massive work in progress, and I think it is unlikely that any nominations or deletions will be reconsidered until it has been completed. We will then be more than happy to deal with future nominations by due process.

For your information, Allen Dulles was NOT a US Secretary of State. John (talk) 13:56, 7 April 2024 (CDT)

These comments do NOT belong here and should only be answered if made on the articles' Talk page itself.Pat Palmer (talk) 17:46, 7 April 2024 (CDT)
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