CZ Talk:Proposal for cost-reducing hosting plan

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Comments on proposal item #1

Memory question

Can we see if there is an option for more memory? Having more RAM might allow more people to work simultaneously without noticeable slowdowns..Pat Palmer 20:27, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

I believe we discussed the issue and decided to see first how response times fared before upping RAM and $-costs. Anthony.Sebastian 20:26, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Comments on proposal item #2

Could we just not restore forums, for now?

Personally, I wouldn't mind a restart to the forums, for now at least, rather than putting energy into trying to restore them. The amount of information now in the forums is too large easily to deal with right now.Pat Palmer 20:32, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Removing the forums and replacing them with on-wiki discussion has the disadvantage that the forums are the only place where non-Citizens can provide comments about anything that we're doing, so this change would make it impossible to hear their concerns. I think that, if we want to remove the forums, we need to provide some other venue that serves the purpose that I mentioned. I don't know how easy this is to do in MediaWiki, but perhaps have a specific page or namespace that non-logged-in users can edit? Cheers, James Yolkowski 00:32, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

I recall asking about this before and being told that it isn't possible. Maybe we could set up a Google Group that anyone could contribute to without being a member of the project? John Stephenson 13:23, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Sounds okay to me. But I'd rather try to keep our forum database on the Simple Machines Forum software, even if we have to selectively reduce the database size by removing ancient/unneeded history—possibly a few long-active-termers could store the removed data locally. Does anyone know whether archived forum data is compressed and if so by what factor, and if not could it be so compressed? Would someone volunteer to find out including how, and how recover? Might require contacting the SMF software folks.

As forum administrator I can download an archive of all posts and other data. As of today, it is 54.4MB uncompressed and 14MB compressed into a .gz file. The uncompressed version can be uploaded to a new SMF installation. However, there is a privacy risk: I found that by doing this you can see the content of private messages sent using the forum software. So you would really have to trust whoever kept the data. John Stephenson 13:18, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Might there be numerous clouds out there with inexpensive (<~$10/mo) application hosting? Who would like to explore that? Some might already provide SMF software. Anthony.Sebastian 20:01, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Comments on proposal item #10

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