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::Thanks for the info! Casey was born in 1890, so would have been in grade school around 1900. As you say, there were once a whole bunch of common references (and assumptions) throughout American culture. My own first reader in the first grade was about "Alice and Jerry", as I recall, which was the Avis to Hertz's "Dick and Jane" or some such -- I think most kids for a couple of decades learned to read from one or the other.... [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 21:39, 21 October 2010 (UTC) | ::Thanks for the info! Casey was born in 1890, so would have been in grade school around 1900. As you say, there were once a whole bunch of common references (and assumptions) throughout American culture. My own first reader in the first grade was about "Alice and Jerry", as I recall, which was the Avis to Hertz's "Dick and Jane" or some such -- I think most kids for a couple of decades learned to read from one or the other.... [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 21:39, 21 October 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::Actually, as it turns out, it is story number VI from the ''Fourth Reader'' (1879 edition). It is short enough, so here it is, in full: | |||
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"'Tis royal fun," cried lazy Ned,<BR> | |||
"To coast upon my fine, new sled,<BR> | |||
And beat the other boys;<BR> | |||
But then, I can not bear to climb<BR> | |||
The tiresome hill, for every time<BR> | |||
It more and more annoys."<BR> | |||
So, while his schoolmates glided by,<BR> | |||
And gladly tugged uphill, to try<BR> | |||
Another merry race,<BR> | |||
Too indolent to share their plays,<BR> | |||
Ned was compelled to stand and gaze,<BR> | |||
While shivering in his place.<BR> | |||
Thus, he would never take the pains<BR> | |||
To seek the prize that labor gains,<BR> | |||
Until the time had passed;<BR> | |||
For, all his life, he dreaded still<BR> | |||
The silly bugbear of ''uphill'',<BR> | |||
And died a dunce at last. | |||
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:::The moral world of the McGuffey Readers is quite unambiguous. Virtue is never its own reward, and vice is never left unpunished. And both must have their worldly component. The rewards and punishments are often immediate, but if not, they are at least certain and, quite often, outsized, with very little, if anything, left to the imagination. And the die is cast early! [[User:James F. Perry|James F. Perry]] 02:12, 22 October 2010 (UTC) |
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Don't forget about Ned!
Don't forget one of the common phrases from the great American philosopher Casey Stengel, "I'm not Ned from the Third Reader!" Or maybe it's "OF the Third Reader".... (His other great phrase, "I didn't just fall off the turnip truck!") Who, or what, was the Third Reader? Hayford Peirce 20:43, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- The reference is to Lazy Ned who wouldn't pull his sled uphill. The Third Reader is McGuffey's Third Reader (a different Ned appears in some of the other Readers). I would suppose it is the 1879 edition and that Mr. Stengel went to school on the McGuffey Readers. I recall reading Henry Steele Commager's intro to the 1962 Signet Classic reprint of the Fifth Reader in which he lamented the fact that the passing of the Readers had deprived Americans of a set of common images. Time was (apparently) when a reference such as Stengel's would have been instantly understood by almost all Americans. No more. James F. Perry 21:26, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info! Casey was born in 1890, so would have been in grade school around 1900. As you say, there were once a whole bunch of common references (and assumptions) throughout American culture. My own first reader in the first grade was about "Alice and Jerry", as I recall, which was the Avis to Hertz's "Dick and Jane" or some such -- I think most kids for a couple of decades learned to read from one or the other.... Hayford Peirce 21:39, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, as it turns out, it is story number VI from the Fourth Reader (1879 edition). It is short enough, so here it is, in full:
"'Tis royal fun," cried lazy Ned,
"To coast upon my fine, new sled,
And beat the other boys;
But then, I can not bear to climb
The tiresome hill, for every time
It more and more annoys."
So, while his schoolmates glided by,
And gladly tugged uphill, to try
Another merry race,
Too indolent to share their plays,
Ned was compelled to stand and gaze,
While shivering in his place.
Thus, he would never take the pains
To seek the prize that labor gains,
Until the time had passed;
For, all his life, he dreaded still
The silly bugbear of uphill,
And died a dunce at last.
- The moral world of the McGuffey Readers is quite unambiguous. Virtue is never its own reward, and vice is never left unpunished. And both must have their worldly component. The rewards and punishments are often immediate, but if not, they are at least certain and, quite often, outsized, with very little, if anything, left to the imagination. And the die is cast early! James F. Perry 02:12, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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