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:Hi Larry, I guess it's always a distinction to be first at something! I've been away from CZ for a while and was unaware of the "dispute watch" initiative. Looking at the "dispute watch" page I find it rather confusing, and in all honesty believe it will be unworkable. I'll stay away for a while until things cool down. [[User:Raymond Arritt|Raymond Arritt]] 10:07, 3 August 2007 (CDT) | :Hi Larry, I guess it's always a distinction to be first at something! I've been away from CZ for a while and was unaware of the "dispute watch" initiative. Looking at the "dispute watch" page I find it rather confusing, and in all honesty believe it will be unworkable. I'll stay away for a while until things cool down. [[User:Raymond Arritt|Raymond Arritt]] 10:07, 3 August 2007 (CDT) | ||
::Further, when do know when it is unnecessary to have the so-called "dispute watch" and how should content | ::Further, when do know when it is unnecessary to have the so-called "dispute watch" and how should content disputes be handled whilst not under "dispute watch"? [[User:Benjamin Seghers|Benjamin Seghers]] 10:39, 3 August 2007 (CDT) |
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Dear Raymond, thanks for your terrific job in Global warming! We were desperately looking for a real climatologist, and here you are! I received a message from Stephen Ewen which I copy-and-paste from my talk page:
If you wish to use images from IPCC reports, you can point me to the links for the images and I will see if they can be used of if they of such quality that we should seek permission, which I'd do. —Stephen Ewen (Talk) 01:05, 3 August 2007 (CDT)
I suppose you might find this useful, if you are still working on the article.
Cheers, --Nereo Preto 01:58, 3 August 2007 (CDT)
- Oh, my. I was away for a while and this thing got away from me. Raymond Arritt 08:35, 3 August 2007 (CDT)
Global warming & "dispute watch"
Dr. Arritt, we haven't "e-met" yet, but let me just add that I'm very glad that a real expert is on hand to guide global warming.
I should explain what I did on the talk page, however. We are very motivated to find a way to keep talk pages on controversial topics from descending into the usual sort of Internet "flame fests." Toward this end, we've studied how to prevent this "edit warring"--see [1]--and out of that, I've produced a tentative solution, involving something I'm calling a "Dispute Watch." If an article seems particularly controversial, and people are constantly engaging themselves in the controversy, instead of looking precisely at how the article should read, we will be able to say that the article is under dispute watch. This means that, after an article enters dispute watch, all argumentative comments have to be addressed directly to some issue about the wording of the article. For details, see: CZ:Dispute Watch.
Well, it just so happens that the very first person who acted contrary to the dispute watch in any case was...you! Please don't take this the wrong way--and please help us to evaluate the success of the "dispute watch" initiative.
What I think I'll do is simply move all of the pre-dispute watch comments to the archive, so people aren't tempted to reply to them. --Larry Sanger 09:11, 3 August 2007 (CDT)
- Hi Larry, I guess it's always a distinction to be first at something! I've been away from CZ for a while and was unaware of the "dispute watch" initiative. Looking at the "dispute watch" page I find it rather confusing, and in all honesty believe it will be unworkable. I'll stay away for a while until things cool down. Raymond Arritt 10:07, 3 August 2007 (CDT)
- Further, when do know when it is unnecessary to have the so-called "dispute watch" and how should content disputes be handled whilst not under "dispute watch"? Benjamin Seghers 10:39, 3 August 2007 (CDT)