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| | Milt was a great contributor to our project who invested a lot of his own knowledge and time in it; Citizendium is much poorer without him. He was highly trusted and respected, previously serving as the project's Treasurer and on the elected Management and Editorial Councils. However, we were a small part of a long life: Milt completed his degree in 1944, but his graduation was delayed while he saw action in Europe during the Second World War. Decades of experience in both chemical and environmental engineering followed, and he would become a well-published authority on various aspects of these fields, as recognized by his Fellowship of the American Institute of Chemical Engineers. His daughter also tells me he liked to apply his engineering approach to everyday life by collecting recipes and carefully replicating dishes he'd enjoyed. Milt stood firm against pseudoscience and other nonsense, as we at Citizendium can attest, and was a strong proponent of the science and the facts. I am sure I speak for those who knew him here when I say that we will miss him. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] ([[User talk:John Stephenson|talk]]) 12:27, 28 February 2015 (UTC) |
| | :RIP Milt. He was a nice gent. [[User:Ro Thorpe|Ro Thorpe]] ([[User talk:Ro Thorpe|talk]]) 14:04, 28 February 2015 (UTC) |
| | :RIP Milt. [[User:JeromeDelacroix|Jérôme Delacroix]] ([[User talk:JeromeDelacroix|talk]]) 18:22, 28 February 2015 (UTC+1) |
| | :RIP Milt. You embodied the true spirit of Citizendium at its best.[[User:Roger A. Lohmann|Roger A. Lohmann]] ([[User talk:Roger A. Lohmann|talk]]) 04:11, 1 March 2015 (UTC) |
| | :RIP MIlt. As a collaborator and colleague, he will be missed. [[User:Russell D. Jones|Russell D. Jones]] ([[User talk:Russell D. Jones|talk]]) 16:33, 1 March 2015 (UTC) |
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| Hi Milt, I have been fiddling around with the formatting of the [[CZ:Article of the Week|Article of the Week]] and [[CZ:New Draft of the Week|New Draft of the Week]] and would be thankful if you would play the [[guinea pig]] (in terms of testing the documentation) by changing the formatting for the New Drafts. I will also ask Howard and Sandy, so please do one article at a time. Thanks! --[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 05:03, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
| | Milt had an abundance of wisdom, passion and knowledge. He was with Citizendium from the early days, and embraced fully the spirit and idealism with which Citizendium was launched. He made an enormous contribution to the project. [[User:Gareth Leng|Gareth Leng]] ([[User talk:Gareth Leng|talk]]) 21:07, 1 March 2015 (UTC) |
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| :As you know by now, I really like what you have done to the AOTW formatting. I can see that you have not yet completely done the same thing for the NDOTW. I would be pleased to help by being a guinea pig but I don't understand what you want me to do. Please spell out in detail what you want me to do ... and I will try it. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 05:13, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
| | I have missed Milt ever since he needed to leave the project, and I will always remember him fondly.[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 01:18, 9 March 2015 (UTC) |
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| ::Hmm, in principle, it means having a closer look at the documentation of {{tl|Candidate}} and following the steps indicated there, perhaps occasionally peeping into the examples given, searching for occurences of ""onlyinclude" and "includeonly" (in pairs, the first without, the second with leading "/"). It also means surrounding "{{tl|subpages}}" by such a pair of "noinclude" (without and with "/"). Finally, replacing "rpl" in the nomination table by "Candidate" should do the trick. If you have specific problems, please ask again or send me a screenshot. --[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 05:40, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
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| :::My edits to [[air preheater]] were meant as practice, but for you rather than me. [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Air_preheater&diff=100507309&oldid=100492253 With a little help from Caesar], you now have another sample to look at. Please try to apply a similar treatment to the other NDotW candidates. Thanks! --[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 14:55, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
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| == minor revision to the Approval process - just the plain name of the Editors should be used ==
| | Let us temper our sadness in the passing of our esteemed colleague with a celebration of his achievements in his field of endeavor. Google Scholar has tabulated 111 articles he published between 1951 and 2005, with links to them and to all the articles that cited them. |
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| Hi, Milt, according to Matt Innis, on the Metadata template page, where the ToA editors are listed, their names should be shown (written) as plain Milton Byechok, NOT as [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]]. I *know* that many Editors have been doing it this way, and I have Approved articles in which this info appeared like that. But, apparently, this is both wrong *and* may cause some subtle problems in the final version of an Approved article. If you've got any questions about this, though, please address them to Matt, not me -- I don't have a *klew* as to the rights and wrongs of the issue. Thanks. I bring it up only because I'll be Approved the ket. article in a little while. I'll make the appropriate change in that particular article.... [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 20:18, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
| | See: [https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=kBHMSC4AAAAJ&hl=en&oi=sra MR Beychok] |
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| :No, problem. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 21:22, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
| | [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] ([[User talk:Anthony.Sebastian|talk]]) 22:22, 28 February 2015 (UTC) |
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| == Congrats, Keto article now approved! ==
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| I think I did it right this time, Milt.... [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 22:22, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
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| :In 15 minutes, not bad! [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 00:25, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Twenty-three -- I wrote long Summary box notes for Ruth, and made minor notes on my working Instructions. Otherwise it would have been 15. Am now gonna make a couple of minor revisions on the Instructions at the Kops page and links.... [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 00:46, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
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| Milt, that [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Henry%27s_law%2FDraft&diff=100511152&oldid=100499486 boo-boo] looks like one of those things you don't want in your approved article. Since you wrote the article and David Volk approved it, if you want me to change it I will, so long as we leave a message on David and Joe's talk pages. If there is a problem, they can let me know and I will change it back. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 02:10, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
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| :I agree. It would be well to fix that boo-boo in the approved article. That way, it doesn't have to wait for a Re-approval. So have at it (including alerting David and Joe). [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 02:14, 11 June 2009 (UTC) | |
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| ::Done. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 02:26, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Sounds good to me. :-) --Joe(16:42, 11 June 2009 (UTC)) [[User:Approvals Manager|Approvals Manager]]
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| <font color=red>Discussion about chemical elements moved to [[Talk:Chemical elements]].</font>--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 10:47, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
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| == Page names: uppercase or lowercase? ==
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| Hi, this is a minor question, but I'd like to know: In [[Elements]] you changed "chemical elements" to "Chemical elements".
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| I thought that, in normal text, the usual lowercase should be used. Did I misunderstand something? [[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 09:19, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
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| :Hi, Peter. In the sentence, "For elements in chemistry see: Chemical elements", the reader is being referred to a specific article named "Chemical elements" and not to chemical elements in general. In other words, it seems to me that any article being referred to in any disambiguation page or anywhere else should usually be written exactly as the article is named. (I say "usually" because there might be some very special cases somewhere).
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| :As an analogy, in referring to the movie named "Titanic", would you write "For a good movie, see titanic" or would you write "For a good movie, see Titanic" ? Regards, [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 16:51, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
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| :: I see. It is not rule, but a matter of correct English. Thanks. [[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 23:10, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
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| :: P.S.: But, as I see now, this seems to contradict advise given for "Related articles" pages. [[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 11:53, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
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| Milton, I wrote [[Heat]] and I have the same uneasy feeling about it as about [[Energy]]. I find both concepts very difficult to explain and looking back in my memory (and also in textbooks) I understand why: nobody defines the concepts properly, everybody relies on intuition. Anyway, could you do me another favor and go over [[Heat]]? Thank you.--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 12:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
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| :I haven't looked at your user page, so I don't know what your credentials are. Maybe my suggestion is old news. But here is the way the concept of heat was described to me. Heat is a form of radiation. It is a simple scientific defenition. You can further expand on that through explaining convection, convention, and radiation.
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| :Of course, it's been along time since I've heard someone with real credentials explaining it, so I may have garbled it horribly.[[User:Drew R. Smith|Drew R. Smith]] 13:01, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Drew, radiation, convection, and conduction (convention?) are three different phenomena; they share the property that they can transport heat.--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 15:47, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Paul, right now I am trying to finish up another article that I've been working on for about a week. So bear with me, I'll look at [[Heat]] when I get a chance. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 16:32, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::Drew, Paul Wormer is a retired professor of theoretical chemistry and he has written literally over 100 articles on chemistry and physics in Citizendium. Its a good idea to look at the user page and user contributions page of people with whom you discuss on CZ. I know it helps me to do that. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 16:32, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
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| :::::Yes, Drew, I second Milton's remarks here -- you really ought to check out the user page of *anyone* before questioning, or even *vaguely* wondering about their credentials -- that's what user pages are for. [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 17:21, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
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Milt
Milt was a great contributor to our project who invested a lot of his own knowledge and time in it; Citizendium is much poorer without him. He was highly trusted and respected, previously serving as the project's Treasurer and on the elected Management and Editorial Councils. However, we were a small part of a long life: Milt completed his degree in 1944, but his graduation was delayed while he saw action in Europe during the Second World War. Decades of experience in both chemical and environmental engineering followed, and he would become a well-published authority on various aspects of these fields, as recognized by his Fellowship of the American Institute of Chemical Engineers. His daughter also tells me he liked to apply his engineering approach to everyday life by collecting recipes and carefully replicating dishes he'd enjoyed. Milt stood firm against pseudoscience and other nonsense, as we at Citizendium can attest, and was a strong proponent of the science and the facts. I am sure I speak for those who knew him here when I say that we will miss him. John Stephenson (talk) 12:27, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
- RIP Milt. He was a nice gent. Ro Thorpe (talk) 14:04, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
- RIP Milt. Jérôme Delacroix (talk) 18:22, 28 February 2015 (UTC+1)
- RIP Milt. You embodied the true spirit of Citizendium at its best.Roger A. Lohmann (talk) 04:11, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
- RIP MIlt. As a collaborator and colleague, he will be missed. Russell D. Jones (talk) 16:33, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
Milt had an abundance of wisdom, passion and knowledge. He was with Citizendium from the early days, and embraced fully the spirit and idealism with which Citizendium was launched. He made an enormous contribution to the project. Gareth Leng (talk) 21:07, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
I have missed Milt ever since he needed to leave the project, and I will always remember him fondly.Pat Palmer (talk) 01:18, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
Milt's productivity as chemical engineer
Let us temper our sadness in the passing of our esteemed colleague with a celebration of his achievements in his field of endeavor. Google Scholar has tabulated 111 articles he published between 1951 and 2005, with links to them and to all the articles that cited them.
See: MR Beychok
Anthony.Sebastian (talk) 22:22, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Where Milt lives it is approximately: 08:18