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Why do CZ articles sometimes fail to appear in Google searches?
#REDIRECT [[PageRank analysis of Citizendium articles]]
 
== Table ==
Double click the arrow button first in the "What links here" column, (so its organized numerically) THEN double-click the arrow button in the Google PageRank column. You'll see how "what links here" is highly correlated with PageRank.
 
Note: wondering if we should make this into a real article; there are lots of links here (!) would the article title be something like a "Citizendium:PageRank analysis" -- where would it go or what should it be called? If so wondering whether I should remove the "Article Google rank" column since its redundant with the better "Google PagePank" stuff.-[[User:Thomas Wright Sulcer|Thomas Wright Sulcer]] 16:07, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
 
For method, look below this wikitable for notes...
 
{|class="sortable wikitable"
|-
|CZ article title
|Date created (eg 200707 = July 2007)
|CZ creator
|Article's Google rank (1=BEST) (9999=doesn't appear)
|Google PageRank (as per [http://www.mygooglepagerank.com/ this tool]) 10/10=BEST 0/10=totally obscure
|# CZ articles "What links here" (est)
|Number of CZ revisions
|approved (a) or draft (d)
|# CZ contributors (people) (est)
|Notes
|-
| [[Terrorism]]<!--Article---> ||200712 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||D. Matt Innis<!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||3/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 500<!---#What Links Here---> ||8 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||a<!--Approved or Draft?---> || 3<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||<!--Notes--->
|-
|[[Lucille Ball]] <!--Article---> ||200812  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Paul Wormer <!--CZ creator---> ||4<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||13<!---#What Links Here---> ||4<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||3<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
|-
|[[Script kiddie]] <!--Article---> ||201002  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Thomas Wright Sulcer <!--CZ creator---> ||<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||9<!---#What Links Here---> || <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
|-
|[[Dana Delany]] <!--Article---> ||201002<!--YYYYDD created---> ||Thomas Wright Sulcer<!--CZ creator---> ||8<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 1<!---#What Links Here---> || 2<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
|-
|[[Lady Gaga]] <!--Article---> ||201002 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Thomas Wright Sulcer <!--CZ creator---> ||9999<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||20<!---#What Links Here---> || 13<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||4<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
|-
|[[Bromance]] <!--Article---> ||201003  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Thomas Wright Sulcer <!--CZ creator---> ||9999<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||13 <!---#What Links Here---> ||6 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||1<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
|-
|[[Albert Einstein]] <!--Article---> ||200611  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Nancy Sculerati MD  <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||3/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 180<!---#What Links Here---> ||42 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||17<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||<!--Notes--->
|-
|[[Restructuring of the United States Army]] <!--Article---> ||200807  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Howard C. Berkowitz  <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 175<!---#What Links Here---> || 54<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||5<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
|-
|[[Solid harmonics]] <!--Article---> ||200708  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Paul Wormer  <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||29<!---#What Links Here---> ||22 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||3<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
|-
|[[Plane (geometry)]] <!--Article---> ||200703 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||John Roby Clayton <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 35<!---#What Links Here---> ||16 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||9<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
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|[[Gaussian elimination]] <!--Article---> ||200905<!--YYYYDD created---> ||David E. Volk <!--CZ creator---> ||9999<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 9<!---#What Links Here---> ||8 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||2<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || Note: this is what appeared first on google: "CZ:Core Articles > Mathematics" not the CZ article; this came third: "Talk:Gaussian elimination"<!--Notes--->
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|[[Linear algebra]] <!--Article---> ||200811  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Barry R. Smith <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||35<!---#What Links Here---> ||2 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||1<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
|-
|[[Cloud computing]] <!--Article---> ||200807 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Ashwath Ravichandran  <!--CZ creator---> ||4<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 50<!---#What Links Here---> ||117 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||6<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||CZ really first; three ads for CC came up first <!--Notes--->
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|[[Horticulture]] <!--Article---> ||200612  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Nancy Sculerati MD  <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||35<!---#What Links Here---> ||13 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||7<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || "CZ: workgroup requests" ranks 2nd<!--Notes--->
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|[[Business]] <!--Article---> ||200707  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Ian Johnson <!--CZ creator---> ||3<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||112<!---#What Links Here---> ||18 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||3<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || "CZ:Business Workgroup" was 2nd; the business article was 3rd - <!--Notes--->
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|[[Truth]] <!--Article---> ||200805  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Larry Sanger <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 35<!---#What Links Here---> ||11 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||5<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||Jacques Derrida, and Aesthetics came up #2 and #3 <!--Notes--->
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|[[Anthropology]] <!--Article---> ||200707  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Chris Day <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||4/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 370<!---#What Links Here---> ||41 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||10<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || CZ:anthropology workgroup came up #9<!--Notes--->
|-
|[[Applied social sciences]] <!--Article---> ||200803  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Roger Lohmann<!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 28<!---#What Links Here---> ||15 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||6<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || Anthro:catalogs 3/10 biblio 3/10 rel art 3/10<!--Notes--->
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|[[Henry Ford]] <!--Article---> ||200704  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Richard Jensen <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||3/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||45 <!---#What Links Here---> ||41<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||10<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||HF's external links, and bibliography were #2 and #3 <!--Notes--->
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|[[Nobel Prize]] <!--Article---> ||200810  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Daniel Mietchen <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||3/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||140<!---#What Links Here---> ||9 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||4<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
|-
|[[Norway]] <!--Article---> ||200705  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Kjetil Ree <!--CZ creator---> ||2<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 135 <!---#What Links Here---> ||56 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||4<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||The Norway "Gallery" came up 1st; a collection of images about Norway. <!--Notes--->
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|[[Great Britain]] <!--Article---> ||200704  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Richard Jensen <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||3/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||150 <!---#What Links Here---> ||39 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||6<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
|-
|[[United Kingdom]] <!--Article---> ||200611  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Rilson Versuri <!--CZ creator---> ||2<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 1000<!---#What Links Here---> ||163 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||22<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||What came first? "Parliament of the United Kingdom - encyclopedia article - Citizendium" Why? "Catalogs" came 3rd.<!--Notes--->
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|[[Scottish Parliament]] <!--Article---> ||200801  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Gareth Leng <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||39 <!---#What Links Here---> ||12 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||4<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
|-
|[[Royal Palace of Holyroodhouse]] <!--Article---> ||200805  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Gareth Leng <!--CZ creator---> ||6<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 16<!---#What Links Here---> ||7 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||2<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||First: [[Royal Mile]] article on CZ; second: [[Edinburgh]] (external links); third: Scottish Parliament; 4th = RP of H (related articles) <!--Notes--->
|-
|[[Arthur's Seat]] <!--Article---> ||200801  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Gareth Leng <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||19 <!---#What Links Here---> ||6 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||4<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||Scottish Parliament article #2; Royal Mile article #3; Arthur's Seat external links comes #7 <!--Notes--->
|-
|[[Photosynthesis]] <!--Article---> ||200808 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Anthony.Sebastian <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||90 <!---#What Links Here---> ||108 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||6<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||Photosynthesis "Gallery" comes #2 <!--Notes--->
|-
|[[Handyman]] <!--Article---> ||201002  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Thomas Wright Sulcer  <!--CZ creator---> ||9999<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||12 <!---#What Links Here---> ||24 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||2<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || CZ's [[Cottage industry]] comes 1st; [[Tool]] related articles comes #5<!--Notes--->
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|[[Guitar]] <!--Article---> ||200810 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Kiryl Rusetski <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| 125<!---#What Links Here---> ||10 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||7<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
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|[[Hierarchical clustering]] <!--Article---> ||200911  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Daniel Mietchen  <!--CZ creator---> ||3<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||10 <!---#What Links Here---> || 7<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||2<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || CZ article "Bioinformatics - encyclopedia article - Citizendium" comes 1st; the talk page of Hc comes about 8th.<!--Notes--->
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|[[Human]] <!--Article---> ||200710 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Philippe Tusler<!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||4/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||380 <!---#What Links Here---> ||9<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||6<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
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|[[Chimpanzee]] <!--Article---> ||200802 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Wilson Rondini IV <!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||3/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||44 <!---#What Links Here---> ||35<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||7<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
|-
|[[Money]] <!--Article---> ||200706  <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Anthony Argyriou <!--CZ creator---> ||3<!--Article Google rank---> ||3/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||40 <!---#What Links Here---> ||12 <!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||5<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> ||"Money supply" on CZ came up first, "Monetarism" came up 2nd <!--Notes--->
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|[[Money supply]]<!--Article [[]]---> ||200811 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Nick Gardner<!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||3/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||50 <!---#What Links Here---> ||11<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||2<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
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|[[Brain morphometry]]<!--Article [[]]---> ||200804 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Daniel Mietchen<!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||50 <!---#What Links Here---> ||100<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||3<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
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|[[Gyrification]]<!--Article [[]]---> ||200804 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Daniel Mietchen<!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||3/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||90 <!---#What Links Here---> ||100<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||2<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
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|[[Cortical thickness]]<!--Article [[]]---> ||200804 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Daniel Mietchen<!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||50 <!---#What Links Here---> ||20<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||2<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
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|[[Neuroimaging]]<!--Article [[]]---> ||200811 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Daniel Mietchen<!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||4/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||150 <!---#What Links Here---> ||20<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||4<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
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|[[Music perception]]<!--Article [[]]---> ||200806 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Daniel Mietchen<!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||4/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||50 <!---#What Links Here---> ||11<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||6<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
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|[[Open access]]<!--Article [[]]---> ||200611 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||DavidGoodman<!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||50 <!---#What Links Here---> ||20<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||9<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
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|[[Open science]]<!--Article [[]]---> ||201002 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Daniel Mietchen<!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||20 <!---#What Links Here---> ||3<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||1<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
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|[[Spherical harmonics]]<!--Article [[]]---> ||200708 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Paul Wormer<!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||2/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||50 <!---#What Links Here---> ||100<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||5<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
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|[[Biology]]<!--Article [[]]---> ||200610 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Nancy Sculerati MD<!--CZ creator---> ||1<!--Article Google rank---> ||4/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||1000 <!---#What Links Here---> ||700<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||a<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||5<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes--->
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|[[Life]]<!--Article [[]]---> ||200612 <!--YYYYDD created---> ||Matthias Brendel<!--CZ creator---> ||2<!--Article Google rank---> ||4/10<!--Google's PageRank--->||150 <!---#What Links Here---> ||1500<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||a<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||5<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes---> First is Life/Signed_Articles/John_Whitfield
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==Notes==
 
I looked at various CZ articles, created at different times by different people, looked at different variables such as # revisions, # contributors, creation date (sortable format, so later dates are numerically higher). For each, I typed this into a google searchbar, putting the exact article name in quotes: 
 
"Exact article name" citizendium
 
What rank did each one get? The rank is the entry number; so if it appeared on the first page in the fourth slot, it got a rank of "4"; I counted subgroups too. This is my ranking by checking it out on google. If it didn't appear after a page or two of searching, I put 9999 meaning I didn't find it.
 
A second measure is Google's "PageRank" -- by plugging an article title into the Google PageRank tool, a number comes out -- 10 is highest, 0 is lowest.
 
The variable "what links here"; just go to any CZ article, and click on the box under tools that says "what links here". This is a rough guess based on scrolling through pages. I think this is an important variable.
 
My working hypothesis is: '''CZ's Related Article subpages CONFUSE Google's crawlers'''. They have trouble figuring what links to what. As a result, CZ's internal links are TOO COMPLEX and CZ's web presence is harmed as a result. Date is a big variable; organize it by date first, then article google rank second; there are no articles created in 2009 that achieved a #1 spot EVEN WITH THE WORD "CITIZENDIUM" in the search bar.
 
A recommendation which I think we should do: don't block google crawlers from user pages. The links from user pages to articles is a big source of strength for us. If there are some CZ users who want to have their user page "private" and unsearchable, then maybe some special arrangement can be made. But this seems to be an easy, straightforward recommendation that would help considerably.
 
 
 
Shell for adding more data:
 
<nowiki>| <!--Article [[]]---> || <!--YYYYDD created---> ||<!--CZ creator---> ||<!--Article Google rank---> ||0/10<!--Google's PageRank--->|| <!---#What Links Here---> ||<!--Number of CZ revisions---> ||d<!--Approved or Draft?---> ||<!--# CZ contributors (est)---> || <!--Notes---> |- </nowiki>

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