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Hi. Yes, I have the legal right to use and redistribute this particular image. Foremost would be the fair use in copyright law, but second, an image like this one was modified / colorized through an image editing program (Adobe Photoshop) -- in other words, it has been modified to enough of an extent, when held to the original nobody would be mistaken -- it is '''not''' the same image. *smile*) so it's different than the one I based the image on. Due to modifications, though "similar" to the original, it's my own image. Technically, I can't use it for commercial purposes of my own. That would be unethical, but it can be used for educational purposes legally, and of course all respective credits intact. --[[User:Sharon Mooney|Sharon Mooney]] 18:47, 23 February 2007 (EST) | Hi. Yes, I have the legal right to use and redistribute this particular image. Foremost would be the fair use in copyright law, but second, an image like this one was modified / colorized through an image editing program (Adobe Photoshop) -- in other words, it has been modified to enough of an extent, when held to the original nobody would be mistaken -- it is '''not''' the same image. *smile*) so it's different than the one I based the image on. Due to modifications, though "similar" to the original, it's my own image. Technically, I can't use it for commercial purposes of my own. That would be unethical, but it can be used for educational purposes legally, and of course all respective credits intact. --[[User:Sharon Mooney|Sharon Mooney]] 18:47, 23 February 2007 (EST) | ||
"I am not a lawyer," but surely we cannot with good sense justify use of entire, decent-quality images via the doctrine of "fair use," since we're redistributing images to the ''entire world.'' We aren't making a copy for use in a college | "I am not a lawyer," but surely we cannot with good sense justify use of entire, decent-quality images via the doctrine of "fair use," since we're redistributing images to the ''entire world.'' We aren't making a copy for use in a college course, or taking a small quotation from a whole book and putting it in another publication--we're taking an ''entire, decent-quality'' image of the same sort that was copyrighted by the original source. That's why I don't buy the use of "fair use" with respect to any but very small reproductions, and maybe not even then. | ||
I also don't buy the argument that because you have modified an image, it is therefore yours. If I make a copy of a picture I found in ''Time'' magazine, and photoshop it, that ''obviously'' doesn't make the picture mine. It makes it an altered version of ''Time'' magazine's picture. | I also don't buy the argument that because you have modified an image, it is therefore yours. If I make a copy of a picture I found in ''Time'' magazine, and photoshop it, that ''obviously'' doesn't make the picture mine. It makes it an altered version of ''Time'' magazine's picture. | ||
Proper authorization would take the form of actual permission from the copyright holder. --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 18:31, 23 February 2007 (CST) | Proper authorization would take the form of actual permission from the copyright holder. --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 18:31, 23 February 2007 (CST) | ||
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Hi Sharon, welcome again--regarding Image:Oldest carbon life.jpg, is that something that you have the copyright to? If so, can you please include the copyright info & permission/license so we can be sure we can use it? --Larry Sanger 17:11, 23 February 2007 (CST)
Hi. Yes, I have the legal right to use and redistribute this particular image. Foremost would be the fair use in copyright law, but second, an image like this one was modified / colorized through an image editing program (Adobe Photoshop) -- in other words, it has been modified to enough of an extent, when held to the original nobody would be mistaken -- it is not the same image. *smile*) so it's different than the one I based the image on. Due to modifications, though "similar" to the original, it's my own image. Technically, I can't use it for commercial purposes of my own. That would be unethical, but it can be used for educational purposes legally, and of course all respective credits intact. --Sharon Mooney 18:47, 23 February 2007 (EST)
"I am not a lawyer," but surely we cannot with good sense justify use of entire, decent-quality images via the doctrine of "fair use," since we're redistributing images to the entire world. We aren't making a copy for use in a college course, or taking a small quotation from a whole book and putting it in another publication--we're taking an entire, decent-quality image of the same sort that was copyrighted by the original source. That's why I don't buy the use of "fair use" with respect to any but very small reproductions, and maybe not even then.
I also don't buy the argument that because you have modified an image, it is therefore yours. If I make a copy of a picture I found in Time magazine, and photoshop it, that obviously doesn't make the picture mine. It makes it an altered version of Time magazine's picture.
Proper authorization would take the form of actual permission from the copyright holder. --Larry Sanger 18:31, 23 February 2007 (CST)