User talk:Boris Tsirelson

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Welcome Aboard

I'm fairly new here myself, with maybe a weeks worth of edits under my belt. I just wanted to be the first (besides those pesky account creators) to welcome you to Citizendium.Drew R. Smith 20:07, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! But do not expect me to deal with aquarium fish :-) Boris Tsirelson 20:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

As long as you don't expect me to deal with math ;-) Did you come from The Other Place™, or is this your first wiki experience?Drew R. Smith 20:27, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

If it is an euphemism for Wikipedia, then the answer is "yes"; thust visit (again) my home. Boris Tsirelson 20:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Привет Борис, приятно Вас увидеть здесь. В случае проблем с местными процедурами или шаблонами, спросите у тех, кто на сайте (участники постараются быть вежливыми, обычно успешно), или прямо в Форуме. С улыбкой, --Daniel Mietchen 06:58, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. However I wonder, is it polite enough to speak Russian here? Boris Tsirelson 08:17, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

My understanding is that as long as the content of the message can be understood by all concerned with it, you can use whatever language you like. --Daniel Mietchen 08:26, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

On doubts

Thanks for the feedback. I tried to rephrase that policy page, such that it makes more sense. Some noteworthy differences between Wikipedia entries and arxiv preprints include that the latter are written with a coherent narrative about original research by a few experts for other experts, with no or few hyperlinks to freely available explanations of concepts that provide the context for understanding. --Daniel Mietchen 08:52, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Nice. This version sounds better for me. Now I feel astonished, however, that you just modify a policy. In Wikipedia, to modify a policy is quite a problem; a consensus must be reached between a lot of editors on the talk page before even a small change. Are you sure that others agree with your new formulation? Boris Tsirelson 09:23, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I didn't modify the policy, just tried to distill it down onto that policy page from my experience of about one year at the site. The best way to get feedback on such issues are the forums, so I started a new thread there. --Daniel Mietchen 09:53, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

What I really had in mind are Wikipedia articles made by myself (with quite small changes by others), that are written with a coherent narrative (I hope so!), for instance [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Borel_set. And of course I would be ready to improve it here if some critique appears. But the policy required me to criticize myself as a precondition! Boris Tsirelson 09:29, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

This is covered at CZ:How to convert Wikipedia articles to Citizendium articles#Are you the main author of that Wikipedia article?. --Daniel Mietchen 09:53, 17 June 2009 (UTC)