Talk:Weltanschauung of Hitler

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I am not sure that Hitler's "Weltanschauung" deserves a separate article, but, in any case, such an article should be called -- if the German word is used -- Hitler's weltanschauung (or Hitler's Weltanschauung?). Disambiguation Weltanschauung (Nazi) is not adequate: There is no separate meaning of the word "weltanschauung" in Nazi Germany. Nazis and Hitler had a (personal) Weltanschauung, and it would not even be correct to postulate Nazi weltanschauung = Hitler's weltanschauung. --Peter Schmitt 13:39, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm perfectly willing to retitle it Hitler's weltanschauung. It is important to disambiguate it from more general uses such as those of Hegel or Nietzsche.

Unfortunately, not all the references are online, but there is a very strong argument among historians, whom I cited, is that there is no such thing as a Nazi weltanschauung other than Hitler's. I think it's fair to say that most charismatic leaders with unique viewpoints have personal weltanschauung, not open to interpretation by anyone else. I am unaware of another Nazi that claimed to have one. Can you produce some references to that effect, or critique the ones I gave?

As far as there being no separate meaning, would you say there is no separate meaning of "philosophy" or "value system"? Howard C. Berkowitz 17:43, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

As for "Nazi weltanschauung": I expect that some "common" one can be found by analysis. But that was not my point. I only referred to it as a second argument against the title "Weltanschauung (Nazi)" -- you obviously want to talk about Hitler. Thus it is wrong to call it "Nazi" whether there is a Nazi weltanschauung or not.

I agree with you: Every leader (every human!) has a weltanschauung. But your definition is written as if it were a special Nazi term:

• Weltanschauung (Nazi) [r]: Literally "world view", the set of ideas less specific than an ideology underlying Adolf Hitler's seeking of goals ^[e] Literally "world view", a utopian idea less specific than an ideology
• Weltanschauung [r]: (German, literally: View of the world) A comprehensive conception (by a person or a group of persons) of human life and its relation to the universe. ^[e]

As for "separate meaning": I only wanted to say that Nazis used the term the same way as others (but had another weltanschauung).

--Peter Schmitt 18:01, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

As I said, I am perfectly willing to change to Hitler's. I would challenge, howeever, the notion there is a Nazi one separate from Hitler's. He tended to kill Nazis, such as Roehm and Gregor Strasser, that suggested there might be one other than what he said it was. Howard C. Berkowitz 18:25, 1 January 2011 (UTC)