Talk:Roast turkey/Archive 2

A user has requested that an administrator delete this page forthwith.

I have copied this material to a new article called "Roast turkey", therefore this is no longer needed

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Hayford Peirce 16:52, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Disagree

Hayford, you didn't discuss this before doing it, and I believe renaming is just as much an issue as large deletes. Now, this is not to say there couldn't be a multicultural article on roast turkey, but the procedure bothers me.

Mary, once others have contributed articles, no non-Editor can call for deletion unless the article meets one of the specific criteria for removal by Constables. The Editors have a broader range of reasons for deletion, but -- trust me -- I have, as an Editor, sometimes had to argue long and hard to get a deletion. Howard C. Berkowitz 17:10, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Howard, the way the article was written by Peter and various people it no longer had *any* connection to American turkey. The article was now completely free of ethnocentricism. Read it. It would be as strange to keep the (American) in the title as would would be have an article called Roast beef (English) merely because it said in the article that English people like eating it. In any case, it was *I*, way back in the dark ages of this article, who originally MOVED it to Roast turkey (American), BECAUSE it was ethnocentric. Now that it isn't, there's no reason to keep that word in the title. Please now go read the article itself and then come back and tell me that I shouldn't have done what I did. Thanks! Hayford Peirce 17:19, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Hayford, I don't especially disagree with the new title. My concern, after several other recent experience, is that a move is at least as disruptive as a deletion of 50 words or more. Using that example, it is my opinion that proposed renamings need to be preannounced and quite possibly get a consensus. While you are certainly a content contributor here, I'm also sensitive to unilateral renaming/move by people not involved in the content, especially who are not also Editors of an applicable workgroup. Howard C. Berkowitz 19:28, 16 October 2010 (UTC)