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As an aside, the 79,200 tons annually is very much less than the 330,000 tons annually that  you reported on the talk page of [[Smog]]. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 17:52, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
As an aside, the 79,200 tons annually is very much less than the 330,000 tons annually that  you reported on the talk page of [[Smog]]. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 17:52, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
::Milt the corrected sentence now states: The lake also emits an estimated 7,200 tons per day PM 10 (particulate matter 10 microns or less) [6]or an estimated '''79,200''' tons annually, according to a United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) study done between July 2000 through June 2001.[7] “Owens Lake is the largest single source of PM-10 in the United States,
I stand by what the source states which is: '''"Peak Daily PM-10 = 7,200 tons
Annual PM-10 = 79,200 tons
Dust ID Period: July 2000 - June 2001."''' p. 22 Quantifying Particulate Matter Emissions from Wind Blown Dust Using Real Time Sand Flux Measurements, Duane Ono and Scott Weaver, Great Basin Unified Air Pollution Control District,April 2003
US EPA Emission Inventory Conference
San Diego, California
I made no comments on the talk page about the tonnage of PM 10 or any other air pollution statistics either. The statistics given are from the reports listed as sources in the article. I also provided numerous links that anyone could use to expand the article.
As always I approached the article as if I interviewed experts in the field. As Citizendium is not a paying writing gig, I can not call and interview the people cited in this article. Suffice it to say the article is referenced with recognized authorities.
As this is a wiki, anyone can edit and improve the article I started. I've provided numerous links for anyone to research and write from.
[[User:Mary Ash|Mary Ash]] 18:25, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
I will insert peak in front of daily and I am glad you picked that up.

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Arithmetic errors

Mary, there is something wrong with your numbers in the "Air pollution" section where you wrote:

  • The lake also emits an estimated 7,200 tons per day PM 10 (particulate matter 10 microns or less) or an estimated 79,2000 tons annually, according to a United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) study done between July 2000 through June 2001.

(1) 79,2000 tons annually has an extra zero. According to page 22 of your reference 7, the correct number reported is 79,200 tons annually.

(2) Dividing the 79, 200 tons annually by 365 days in a year means that the average daily PM was 217 tons per day.

(3) Again, according to page 22 of your reference, the peak daily PM was 7,200 tons daily tons .... meaning that was the worst daily amount encountered during the 1-year test period. It was not the average daily amount.

You should revise your above sentence to read:

  • The lake also emits an estimated daily average of 217 tons per day PM 10 (particulate matter 10 microns or less) or an estimated 79, 200 (particulate matter annually, according to a United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) study done between July 2000 through June 2001. The peak daily amount of PM 10 emission encountered during the test period was 7,200 tons.

As an aside, the 79,200 tons annually is very much less than the 330,000 tons annually that you reported on the talk page of Smog. Milton Beychok 17:52, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Milt the corrected sentence now states: The lake also emits an estimated 7,200 tons per day PM 10 (particulate matter 10 microns or less) [6]or an estimated 79,200 tons annually, according to a United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) study done between July 2000 through June 2001.[7] “Owens Lake is the largest single source of PM-10 in the United States,

I stand by what the source states which is: "Peak Daily PM-10 = 7,200 tons Annual PM-10 = 79,200 tons Dust ID Period: July 2000 - June 2001." p. 22 Quantifying Particulate Matter Emissions from Wind Blown Dust Using Real Time Sand Flux Measurements, Duane Ono and Scott Weaver, Great Basin Unified Air Pollution Control District,April 2003 US EPA Emission Inventory Conference San Diego, California

I made no comments on the talk page about the tonnage of PM 10 or any other air pollution statistics either. The statistics given are from the reports listed as sources in the article. I also provided numerous links that anyone could use to expand the article.

As always I approached the article as if I interviewed experts in the field. As Citizendium is not a paying writing gig, I can not call and interview the people cited in this article. Suffice it to say the article is referenced with recognized authorities.

As this is a wiki, anyone can edit and improve the article I started. I've provided numerous links for anyone to research and write from.

Mary Ash 18:25, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

I will insert peak in front of daily and I am glad you picked that up.