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Interesting topic.  But it seems to me that "land" ''per se'' is meaningless without the notion of private property.  After all, all kinds of cultures have lived on, moved through, and gained food from "land," but the notion of private property is comparatively a recent one in most areas of the world (particularly I am thinking of the Americas, Australia, and much of Africa and the Pacific).  Seems as though some discussion of this is in order.  Also, the article would read better if organized into longer, developed paragraphs, I feel.  Good luck with this! [[User:Russell Potter|Russell Potter]] 09:13, 18 June 2007 (CDT)
Interesting topic.  But it seems to me that "land" ''per se'' is meaningless without the notion of private property.  After all, all kinds of cultures have lived on, moved through, and gained food from "land," but the notion of private property is comparatively a recent one in most areas of the world (particularly I am thinking of the Americas, Australia, and much of Africa and the Pacific).  Seems as though some discussion of this is in order.  Also, the article would read better if organized into longer, developed paragraphs, I feel.  Good luck with this! [[User:Russell Potter|Russell Potter]] 09:13, 18 June 2007 (CDT)
:Thank you for this positive comment. You are absolutely right that the subject of [[property]] is a crucial adjunct to any discussion of land in the context of economics. But there is a need to distinguish property in man-made products from property claimed in nature-given resources -- i. e. between [[private property]] and [[public property]]. I suggest that among the best guides in this respect are the writings of [[John Locke]] and [[Thomas Paine]].
:I am hoping to secure some help with the further elaboration of the article.
:PS. Is creating relevant "red links" encouraged or not? -- [[User:Janos Abel|Janos Abel]] 09:23, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
::Honestly, when I first saw this article, I thought it would be about bodies of land mass, not "property".  I think the aim of this article is going in the wrong direction, and if you're going to talk about ownership and private property, it should be under "Land property" or something.  There's much that can be said about the context of "Land" that is much more general than it's relation to owning it.--[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 09:22, 19 June 2007 (CDT)

Revision as of 09:22, 19 June 2007

The controversial nature of land in economics seems to be palyed down nowadays by profession economists. I am not sure what is the exact citizendium policy in this regard. I started this stub because hiding land "under the skirt of capital" partly explains, I believe, why Western culture lost the effective awareness of the importance of environment during most part of the twentieth century. -- Janos Abel 14:03, 17 June 2007 (CDT)


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Article status Stub: no more than a few sentences
Underlinked article? Yes
Basic cleanup done? Yes
Checklist last edited by David Martin 17:09, 14 May 2007 (CDT)

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Property

Interesting topic. But it seems to me that "land" per se is meaningless without the notion of private property. After all, all kinds of cultures have lived on, moved through, and gained food from "land," but the notion of private property is comparatively a recent one in most areas of the world (particularly I am thinking of the Americas, Australia, and much of Africa and the Pacific). Seems as though some discussion of this is in order. Also, the article would read better if organized into longer, developed paragraphs, I feel. Good luck with this! Russell Potter 09:13, 18 June 2007 (CDT)

Thank you for this positive comment. You are absolutely right that the subject of property is a crucial adjunct to any discussion of land in the context of economics. But there is a need to distinguish property in man-made products from property claimed in nature-given resources -- i. e. between private property and public property. I suggest that among the best guides in this respect are the writings of John Locke and Thomas Paine.
I am hoping to secure some help with the further elaboration of the article.
PS. Is creating relevant "red links" encouraged or not? -- Janos Abel 09:23, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
Honestly, when I first saw this article, I thought it would be about bodies of land mass, not "property". I think the aim of this article is going in the wrong direction, and if you're going to talk about ownership and private property, it should be under "Land property" or something. There's much that can be said about the context of "Land" that is much more general than it's relation to owning it.--Robert W King 09:22, 19 June 2007 (CDT)