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:::I voted, very reluctantly, for Bush in '88, but certainly not in '92. I do remember the Chicken Kiev speech and thought at the time that it was a strange aberration for someone who, up till then, had been pretty good on foreign policy. As for making chicken kiev, no wonder your Mom never did -- it's a fairly difficult, and quite tricky, dish to make successfully. I've done it maybe 10 times in 30 years. Unlike a lot of wonderful dishes, where it's just as easy to make it for 8 people as for 4, Kiev doubles the work for each additional person. There are shortcuts, but they're not going to taste as good. [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 23:04, 9 August 2007 (CDT) | |||
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The "Kyiv" versus "Kiev" naming controversy continues on Wikipedia, where I have posted some entries (as Wikipedia user:shmorhay) to one particular page there --
Wikipedia Kyiv vs. Kiev talk page
While I am Ukrainian-American, my area of expertise is in computer technology, not Eastern European affairs, so I would be very grateful if someone with recognized expertise in this area could tackle this issue. I will defer to the rulings of the more knowledgeable, but some "adult supervision" on this topic is definitely required.
- Well, I for one love good Chicken Kiev (not the awful frozen stuff), so I would hate to see it renamed Chicken Kyiv.... On the other hand, Peking Duck has not been renamed Beijing Duck in Chinese restaurants as far as I know.... Hayford Peirce 18:51, 9 August 2007 (CDT)
- It turns out that the name Chicken Kiev itself has an interesting cultural history, and even political ramifications --
- As you can well imagine, Ukrainian-Americans were not pleased by Bush senior's "Chicken Kiev" speech, and saw it as an American presidential directive to "keep to your place, and don't make trouble for your overlords":
- The critical lines were: "Americans will not support those who seek independence in order to replace a far-off tyranny [based in Moscow] with a local despotism [based in Kyiv]. They will not aid those who promote a suicidal nationalism based upon ethnic hatred."
- Oddly enough, that was one recipe my mom never made, although we all managed to gain lots of weight from her other stuff.
- And needless to say, none of us never considered voting for a Bush.
- I voted, very reluctantly, for Bush in '88, but certainly not in '92. I do remember the Chicken Kiev speech and thought at the time that it was a strange aberration for someone who, up till then, had been pretty good on foreign policy. As for making chicken kiev, no wonder your Mom never did -- it's a fairly difficult, and quite tricky, dish to make successfully. I've done it maybe 10 times in 30 years. Unlike a lot of wonderful dishes, where it's just as easy to make it for 8 people as for 4, Kiev doubles the work for each additional person. There are shortcuts, but they're not going to taste as good. Hayford Peirce 23:04, 9 August 2007 (CDT)