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imported>Hayford Peirce (off hand, I think cuisine, cooking, and food are three separate things) |
imported>Derek Harkness (3 more top level articles and clarification of that 'top level articles' means.) |
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I would have you think through what top-level articles we'll have on this general theme. Will we distinguish [[cuisine]] from [[cooking]] and both from [[food]]? And will we have some other general food-related articles? --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 17:06, 9 September 2007 (CDT) | I would have you think through what top-level articles we'll have on this general theme. Will we distinguish [[cuisine]] from [[cooking]] and both from [[food]]? And will we have some other general food-related articles? --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 17:06, 9 September 2007 (CDT) | ||
:Off the top of my head, I think that [[cuisine]], particularly as it is being broken down into various nationalities, is clearly distinct from [[cooking]]. Both American and French cuisines, for instance, use [[broiling]] as a [[cooking]] technique. Ditto with all the other sub-categories that are listed in [[cooking]] right now. [[Food]] can have numerous sub-categories, such as nutrition, storage, production, health issues, etc. etc. And we have to do something about [[Beverages]] -- do [[wine]], [[beer]], [[Catalog of cocktails|cocktails]], [[soft drinks]], [[milk]], etc., fit in here, or where? And do we have a [[Catalog of wines]], for instance, which could end up with *thousands* of entries. Food for thought.... [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 17:16, 9 September 2007 (CDT) | :Off the top of my head, I think that [[cuisine]], particularly as it is being broken down into various nationalities, is clearly distinct from [[cooking]]. Both American and French cuisines, for instance, use [[broiling]] as a [[cooking]] technique. Ditto with all the other sub-categories that are listed in [[cooking]] right now. [[Food]] can have numerous sub-categories, such as nutrition, storage, production, health issues, etc. etc. And we have to do something about [[Beverages]] -- do [[wine]], [[beer]], [[Catalog of cocktails|cocktails]], [[soft drinks]], [[milk]], etc., fit in here, or where? And do we have a [[Catalog of wines]], for instance, which could end up with *thousands* of entries. Food for thought.... [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 17:16, 9 September 2007 (CDT) | ||
::To add to your list perhaps: [[Ingredients]] - that is food that is used to make other food; [[Nutrition]] - should be a key part of food science; [[Hygiene]] - Is important. In the UK, a course on Hygiene is compulsory for all food preparation workers. there may be a few others. | |||
::However, there seems to be some confusion as to the meaning of 'top level article'. [[cuisine]] is a top level article, but that doesn't mean everything the mentions [[cuisine]] will be a subpage of [[cuisine]]. We have to be careful, ''subpage clusters are not sudo categories''. In using the words 'top level article', I think Larry means 'general subject articles' and 'important articles'. I don't think he meant that all other articles must be physically positioned under them. | |||
::We will have an article, which I am working on, entitled [[chinese cuisine]] which will deal with all the particulars of Chinese cooking and eating including all the customs and traditions associated with Chinese cuisine. There would be a subpage at [[Chinese cuisine/Catelogs]] which would contain the current [[Catelog of Chinese cuisine]] article. [[Chinese cuisine]] is not a subpage of [[cuisine]], it is an article in it's own right. I am similarly going to do other cuisine's as I am able to do so. The introduction to the [[Catalog of Italian cuisine]] could be a nucleus for beginning an article at [[Italian cuisine]]. [[User:Derek Harkness|Derek Harkness]] 19:52, 10 September 2007 (CDT) | |||
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I would have you think through what top-level articles we'll have on this general theme. Will we distinguish cuisine from cooking and both from food? And will we have some other general food-related articles? --Larry Sanger 17:06, 9 September 2007 (CDT)
- Off the top of my head, I think that cuisine, particularly as it is being broken down into various nationalities, is clearly distinct from cooking. Both American and French cuisines, for instance, use broiling as a cooking technique. Ditto with all the other sub-categories that are listed in cooking right now. Food can have numerous sub-categories, such as nutrition, storage, production, health issues, etc. etc. And we have to do something about Beverages -- do wine, beer, cocktails, soft drinks, milk, etc., fit in here, or where? And do we have a Catalog of wines, for instance, which could end up with *thousands* of entries. Food for thought.... Hayford Peirce 17:16, 9 September 2007 (CDT)
- To add to your list perhaps: Ingredients - that is food that is used to make other food; Nutrition - should be a key part of food science; Hygiene - Is important. In the UK, a course on Hygiene is compulsory for all food preparation workers. there may be a few others.
- However, there seems to be some confusion as to the meaning of 'top level article'. cuisine is a top level article, but that doesn't mean everything the mentions cuisine will be a subpage of cuisine. We have to be careful, subpage clusters are not sudo categories. In using the words 'top level article', I think Larry means 'general subject articles' and 'important articles'. I don't think he meant that all other articles must be physically positioned under them.
- We will have an article, which I am working on, entitled chinese cuisine which will deal with all the particulars of Chinese cooking and eating including all the customs and traditions associated with Chinese cuisine. There would be a subpage at Chinese cuisine/Catelogs which would contain the current Catelog of Chinese cuisine article. Chinese cuisine is not a subpage of cuisine, it is an article in it's own right. I am similarly going to do other cuisine's as I am able to do so. The introduction to the Catalog of Italian cuisine could be a nucleus for beginning an article at Italian cuisine. Derek Harkness 19:52, 10 September 2007 (CDT)