https://citizendium.org/wiki/index.php?title=Non-Borel_set&feed=atom&action=historyNon-Borel set - Revision history2024-03-28T13:44:27ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.39.5https://citizendium.org/wiki/index.php?title=Non-Borel_set&diff=628930&oldid=previmported>Boris Tsirelson: Undo revision 100737190 by Boris Tsirelson (Talk) end of the experiment2010-12-02T16:44:43Z<p>Undo revision 100737190 by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Boris_Tsirelson" title="Special:Contributions/Boris Tsirelson">Boris Tsirelson</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Boris_Tsirelson" title="User talk:Boris Tsirelson">Talk</a>) end of the experiment</p>
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</table>imported>Boris Tsirelsonhttps://citizendium.org/wiki/index.php?title=Non-Borel_set&diff=628932&oldid=previmported>Boris Tsirelson: experiment2010-12-02T16:36:44Z<p>experiment</p>
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</table>imported>Boris Tsirelsonhttps://citizendium.org/wiki/index.php?title=Non-Borel_set&diff=628935&oldid=previmported>Peter Schmitt: /* The example */ paragraph on the advanced proof added2009-06-21T14:56:30Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">The example: </span> paragraph on the advanced proof added</span></p>
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</table>imported>Peter Schmitthttps://citizendium.org/wiki/index.php?title=Non-Borel_set&diff=628940&oldid=previmported>Boris Tsirelson: /* The example */ removing excessive links2009-06-21T05:56:47Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">The example: </span> removing excessive links</span></p>
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</table>imported>Peter Schmitthttps://citizendium.org/wiki/index.php?title=Non-Borel_set&diff=628936&oldid=previmported>Boris Tsirelson: /* The example */ the book moved to Advanced2009-06-20T17:13:05Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">The example: </span> the book moved to Advanced</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>where <math>a_0\,</math> is some [[integer]] and all the other numbers <math>a_k\,</math> are ''positive'' integers. Let <math>A\,</math> be the set of all irrational numbers that correspond to sequences <math>(a_0,a_1,\dots)\,</math> with the following property: there exists an infinite [[subsequence]] <math>(a_{k_0},a_{k_1},\dots)\,</math> such that each element is a [[divisor]] of the next element. This set <math>A\,</math> is not Borel<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. For more details see [[descriptive set theory]] and the book by [[Alexander_S._Kechris|Kechris]], especially Exercise (27.2) on page 209, Definition (22.9) on page 169, and Exercise (3.4)(ii) on page 14</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>where <math>a_0\,</math> is some [[integer]] and all the other numbers <math>a_k\,</math> are ''positive'' integers. Let <math>A\,</math> be the set of all irrational numbers that correspond to sequences <math>(a_0,a_1,\dots)\,</math> with the following property: there exists an infinite [[subsequence]] <math>(a_{k_0},a_{k_1},\dots)\,</math> such that each element is a [[divisor]] of the next element. This set <math>A\,</math> is not Borel.</div></td></tr>
</table>imported>Boris Tsirelsonhttps://citizendium.org/wiki/index.php?title=Non-Borel_set&diff=628931&oldid=previmported>Aleksander Stos: minor wording, if you don't mind2009-06-19T10:31:10Z<p>minor wording, if you don't mind</p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>An example of a non-Borel set, due to [[Nikolai_Luzin|Lusin]], is described below. In contrast, an example of a non-measurable set cannot be <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">given </del>(rather, its existence can be proved), see [[non-measurable set]].</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>An example of a non-Borel set, due to [[Nikolai_Luzin|Lusin]], is described below. In contrast, an example of a non-measurable set cannot be <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">constructed </ins>(rather, its existence can be proved), see [[non-measurable set]].</div></td></tr>
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</table>imported>Aleksander Stoshttps://citizendium.org/wiki/index.php?title=Non-Borel_set&diff=628933&oldid=previmported>Boris Tsirelson: Undo revision 100516166 by Boris Tsirelson (Talk) Oops2009-06-19T06:32:34Z<p>Undo revision 100516166 by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Boris_Tsirelson" title="Special:Contributions/Boris Tsirelson">Boris Tsirelson</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Boris_Tsirelson" title="User talk:Boris Tsirelson">Talk</a>) Oops</p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">A '''non-Borel set''' is a [[set]] that cannot be obtained from ''simple'' sets by taking [[complement_(set theory)|complements]] and [[countable set|at most countable]] [[union_(set theory)|unions]] and [[intersection_(set theory)|intersections]]. (For the definition see [[Borel set]].) Only sets of real numbers are considered in this article. Accordingly, by ''simple'' sets one may mean just [[interval (mathematics)|intervals]]. All Borel sets are [[measurable set|measurable]], moreover, [[universally measurable]]; however, some universally measurable sets are not Borel.</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">An example of a non-Borel set, due to [[Nikolai_Luzin|Lusin]], is described below. In contrast, an example of a non-measurable set cannot be given (rather, its existence can be proved), see [[non-measurable set]].</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==The example==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==The example==</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Every [[irrational number]] has a unique representation by a [[continued fraction]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Every [[irrational number]] has a unique representation by a [[continued fraction]]</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:<math>x = a_0 + \cfrac{1}{a_1 + \cfrac{1}{a_2 + \cfrac{1}{a_3 + \cfrac{1}{\ddots\,}}}} </math></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:<math>x = a_0 + \cfrac{1}{a_1 + \cfrac{1}{a_2 + \cfrac{1}{a_3 + \cfrac{1}{\ddots\,}}}} </math></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>where <math>a_0\,</math> is some [[integer]] and all the other numbers <math>a_k\,</math> are ''positive'' integers. Let <math>A\,</math> be the set of all irrational numbers that correspond to sequences <math>(a_0,a_1,\dots)\,</math> with the following property: there exists an infinite [[subsequence]] <math>(a_{k_0},a_{k_1},\dots)\,</math> such that each element is a [[divisor]] of the next element. This set <math>A\,</math> is not Borel. For more details see [[descriptive set theory]] and the book by [[Alexander_S._Kechris|Kechris]], especially Exercise (27.2) on page 209, Definition (22.9) on page 169, and Exercise (3.4)(ii) on page 14.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>where <math>a_0\,</math> is some [[integer]] and all the other numbers <math>a_k\,</math> are ''positive'' integers. Let <math>A\,</math> be the set of all irrational numbers that correspond to sequences <math>(a_0,a_1,\dots)\,</math> with the following property: there exists an infinite [[subsequence]] <math>(a_{k_0},a_{k_1},\dots)\,</math> such that each element is a [[divisor]] of the next element. This set <math>A\,</math> is not Borel. For more details see [[descriptive set theory]] and the book by [[Alexander_S._Kechris|Kechris]], especially Exercise (27.2) on page 209, Definition (22.9) on page 169, and Exercise (3.4)(ii) on page 14.</div></td></tr>
</table>imported>Boris Tsirelson