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|released    = 12 January 1969
|released    = 12 January 1969
|recorded    = October 1968
|recorded    = October 1968
|genre      = Blues rock, Hard rock,
|genre      = Blues rock, hard rock,
|language    = English
|language    = English
|length      = 8 minutes 28 seconds
|length      = 8 minutes 28 seconds
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==Album version==
==Album version==
At eight and a half minutes, 'How Many More Times' is the longest song on the album.  It consists of several smaller sections held together by a [[bolero]] rhythm that pushes the piece along. At the end, the song pans between the left and right channels. This was one of three Led Zeppelin songs on which Page used bowed guitar,<ref>Dave Lewis (1994), ''The Complete Guide to the Music of Led Zeppelin'', Omnibus Press, ISBN 0-7119-3528-9.</ref> the others being '[[Dazed and Confused (Led Zeppelin song)|Dazed and Confused]]' and '[[In the Light]]'. The song '[[In the Evening]]' utilized several tremolo bar drops to mimic the bow sound.
At eight and a half minutes, 'How Many More Times' is the longest song on the album.  It consists of several smaller sections held together by a [[bolero]] rhythm that pushes the piece along. At the end, the song pans between the left and right channels. This was one of three Led Zeppelin songs on which Page used bowed guitar,<ref>{{cite book|last=Lewis|first=Dave|year=2012|title=Led Zeppelin: From a Whisper to a Scream|location=London|publisher=Omnibus Press|pages=27|isbn=978-1-78038-547-1}}</ref> the others being '[[Dazed and Confused (Led Zeppelin song)|Dazed and Confused]]' and '[[In the Light]]'. The song '[[In the Evening]]' utilized several tremolo bar drops to mimic the bow sound.


Led Zeppelin members [[Jimmy Page]], [[John Paul Jones (musician)|John Paul Jones]] and [[John Bonham]] were credited with writing this song. As with all the other tracks on Led Zeppelin's debut album, [[Robert Plant]] didn't get a writing credit for this song due to unexpired contractual obligations, but he undoubtedly had a large influence in its construction. The arrangement and adaptation of old blues songs was something Plant had much prior experience at during his time with his former band, [[Obs-Tweedle]]. The line, 'I got another child on the way, that makes eleven' refers to his unborn child, [[Carmen Plant|Carmen]], who was born a month or two after Led Zeppelin recorded this album.  
Led Zeppelin members [[Jimmy Page]], [[John Paul Jones (musician)|John Paul Jones]] and [[John Bonham]] were credited with writing this song. As with all the other tracks on Led Zeppelin's debut album, [[Robert Plant]] didn't get a writing credit for this song due to unexpired contractual obligations, but he undoubtedly had a large influence in its construction. The arrangement and adaptation of old blues songs was something Plant had much prior experience at during his time with his former band, [[Obs-Tweedle]]. The line, 'I got another child on the way, that makes eleven' refers to his unborn child, [[Carmen Plant|Carmen]], who was born a month or two after Led Zeppelin recorded this album.  
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Though listed at a time of 3:30 on the album sleeve, the correct length of the track is in fact 8:28. The incorrect listing was deliberate as it was intended to help promote radio play. Page knew that radio stations would never play a song over eight minutes long, so he wrote the track time as shorter on the album to trick radio stations into playing it.
Though listed at a time of 3:30 on the album sleeve, the correct length of the track is in fact 8:28. The incorrect listing was deliberate as it was intended to help promote radio play. Page knew that radio stations would never play a song over eight minutes long, so he wrote the track time as shorter on the album to trick radio stations into playing it.


In an interview he gave to ''Guitar World'' magazine in 1993, Page stated that the song 'was made up of little pieces I developed when I was with [[the Yardbirds]], as were other numbers such as 'Dazed and Confused'. It was played live in the studio with cues and nods.'<ref>{{cite journal|last=Tolinski|first=Brad|coauthors=Greg DiBenedetto|date=May 1993|title=Inside the studio with Jimmy Page|url=http://www.skeptictank.org/files/en004/lza93pag.htm|journal=Guitar World|publisher=Harris Publications|volume=14|issue=5|issn=1063-4231}}</ref> It has also been reported that the 'Rosie' and 'Hunter' components of the song came spontaneously to the group on the night of the recording session.<ref>Dave Lewis (1994), ''The Complete Guide to the Music of Led Zeppelin'', Omnibus Press, ISBN 0-7119-3528-9.</ref>
In an interview he gave to ''Guitar World'' magazine in 1993, Page stated that the song 'was made up of little pieces I developed when I was with [[the Yardbirds]], as were other numbers such as 'Dazed and Confused'. It was played live in the studio with cues and nods.'<ref>{{cite journal|last=Tolinski|first=Brad|coauthors=Greg DiBenedetto|date=May 1993|title=Inside the studio with Jimmy Page|url=http://www.skeptictank.org/files/en004/lza93pag.htm|journal=Guitar World|publisher=Harris Publications|volume=14|issue=5|issn=1063-4231}}</ref> It has also been reported that the 'Rosie' and 'Hunter' components of the song came spontaneously to the group on the night of the recording session.<ref>{{cite book|last=Lewis|first=Dave|year=2012|title=Led Zeppelin: From a Whisper to a Scream|location=London|publisher=Omnibus Press|pages=27|isbn=978-1-78038-547-1}}</ref>


==Live performances==
==Live performances==
On early [[Led Zeppelin concerts|Led Zeppelin concert tours]], 'How Many More Times' was often the band's closing number. Plant typically introduced the rest of the band during the opening bassline, as can be seen during the [[Denmark|Danish]] TV appearance on the ''[[Led Zeppelin (DVD)|Led Zeppelin]]'' DVD. By late 1969, the intro of the song would be quite extended and the band would incorporate more and more material into the song as a medley. An example of such a performance is included on the same DVD, during the [[Royal Albert Hall]] concert.  During the 'Bolero' section, Plant quotes Neil Young's 'Down by the River.' After 'The Hunter,' the band ad-libs John Lee Hooker's 'Boogie Chillen'{{'}}, with lyrics from other sources. The band would then go into 'Cumberland Gap' then After '[[The Lemon Song]]', the band would play 'That's Alright Mama' (which is not on the Led Zeppelin DVD but bootlegs show they did play it. Then they return to 'How Many More Times' at the moment where they left off, the conclusion of 'The Hunter.'  The typical medley pattern ('Boogie Chillen'{{'}} followed by improvisational set of covers and finally a slow blues and a return to the main song) would later be incorporated into '[[Whole Lotta Love]],' as demonstrated on ''[[BBC Sessions (Led Zeppelin album)‎|BBC Sessions]]'' and ''[[How the West Was Won (album)|How the West Was Won]].''  
On early [[Led Zeppelin concerts|Led Zeppelin concert tours]], 'How Many More Times' was often the band's closing number. Plant typically introduced the rest of the band during the opening bassline, as can be seen during the [[Denmark|Danish]] TV appearance on the ''[[Led Zeppelin (DVD)|Led Zeppelin]]'' DVD. By late 1969, the intro of the song would be quite extended and the band would incorporate more and more material into the song as a medley. An example of such a performance is included on the same DVD, during the [[Royal Albert Hall]] concert.  During the 'Bolero' section, Plant quotes Neil Young's 'Down by the River.' After 'The Hunter,' the band ad-libs John Lee Hooker's 'Boogie Chillen'{{'}}, with lyrics from other sources. The band would then go into 'Cumberland Gap' then After '[[The Lemon Song]]', the band would play 'That's Alright Mama' (which is not on the Led Zeppelin DVD but bootlegs show they did play it. Then they return to 'How Many More Times' at the moment where they left off, the conclusion of 'The Hunter.'  The typical medley pattern ('Boogie Chillen'{{'}} followed by improvisational set of covers and finally a slow blues and a return to the main song) would later be incorporated into '[[Whole Lotta Love]],' as demonstrated on ''[[BBC Sessions (Led Zeppelin album)‎|BBC Sessions]]'' and ''[[How the West Was Won (album)|How the West Was Won]].''  


In 1970, 'How Many More Times' was dropped from Led Zeppelin's typical set list, although they would continue to perform it on occasion until the early stages of their [[Led Zeppelin North American Tour 1975|1975 U.S. tour]], when it was re-introduced in full as a result of Jimmy Page's injured finger, which temporarily prevented him from playing 'Dazed and Confused'.<ref>Dave Lewis (1994), ''The Complete Guide to the Music of Led Zeppelin'', Omnibus Press, ISBN 0-7119-3528-9.</ref> It was also played once in 1973, on January 22nd, while the band was [[Led Zeppelin United Kingdom Tour 1972/1973|touring the United Kingdom]].
In 1970, 'How Many More Times' was dropped from Led Zeppelin's typical set list, although they would continue to perform it on occasion until the early stages of their [[Led Zeppelin North American Tour 1975|1975 U.S. tour]], when it was re-introduced in full as a result of Jimmy Page's injured finger, which temporarily prevented him from playing 'Dazed and Confused'.<ref>{{cite book|author=Lewis, Dave and Pallett, Simon|title=[[Led Zeppelin: The Concert File]]|edition=Revised|location=London|publisher=Omnibus Press|year=2005|pages=240|isbn=978-1-84449-659-4}}</ref> It was also played once in 1973, on 22 January, while the band was [[Led Zeppelin United Kingdom Tour 1972/1973|touring the United Kingdom]].


The song was used on the soundtrack to the 1970 anti-Vietnam War film ''Homer''.<ref>{{cite web|title=''Homer'' (1970)|url=http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/78274/Homer/music.html|work=Turner Classic Movies|publisher=Turner Entertainment|accessdate=18 October 2013}}</ref> [[Jimmy Page and Robert Plant]] would also play the song on their ''[[Walking into Clarksdale]]'' tour in 1998, releasing their [[Shepherd's Bush]] performance on a CD single.
The song was used on the soundtrack to the 1970 anti-Vietnam War film ''Homer''.<ref>{{cite web|title=''Homer'' (1970)|url=http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/78274/Homer/music.html|work=Turner Classic Movies|publisher=Turner Entertainment|accessdate=7 April 2014}}</ref> [[Jimmy Page and Robert Plant]] would also play the song on their ''[[Walking into Clarksdale]]'' tour in 1998, releasing their [[Shepherd's Bush]] performance on a CD single.


==Credits==
==Credits==
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**John Bonham - drums, percussion
**John Bonham - drums, percussion
*Production:
*Production:
**Peter Grant – executive producer
**[[Peter Grant]] – executive producer
**Glyn Johns - engineer, mixing
**Glyn Johns - engineer, mixing
**Joe Sidore - original CD mastering engineer (mid-1980s)  
**Joe Sidore - original CD mastering engineer (mid-1980s)  
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==References==
==References==
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How Many More Times
Appears on Led Zeppelin
Published by Superhype Music
Registration ASCAP 380136049
Release date 12 January 1969
Recorded October 1968
Genre Blues rock, hard rock,
Language English
Length 8 minutes 28 seconds
Composer Jimmy Page, John Paul Jones, and John Bonham
Label Atlantic Records
Producer Jimmy Page
Engineer Glyn Johns

'How Many More Times' is the ninth and final track on English rock band Led Zeppelin's 1969 debut album Led Zeppelin.

Album version

At eight and a half minutes, 'How Many More Times' is the longest song on the album. It consists of several smaller sections held together by a bolero rhythm that pushes the piece along. At the end, the song pans between the left and right channels. This was one of three Led Zeppelin songs on which Page used bowed guitar,[1] the others being 'Dazed and Confused' and 'In the Light'. The song 'In the Evening' utilized several tremolo bar drops to mimic the bow sound.

Led Zeppelin members Jimmy Page, John Paul Jones and John Bonham were credited with writing this song. As with all the other tracks on Led Zeppelin's debut album, Robert Plant didn't get a writing credit for this song due to unexpired contractual obligations, but he undoubtedly had a large influence in its construction. The arrangement and adaptation of old blues songs was something Plant had much prior experience at during his time with his former band, Obs-Tweedle. The line, 'I got another child on the way, that makes eleven' refers to his unborn child, Carmen, who was born a month or two after Led Zeppelin recorded this album.

Though listed at a time of 3:30 on the album sleeve, the correct length of the track is in fact 8:28. The incorrect listing was deliberate as it was intended to help promote radio play. Page knew that radio stations would never play a song over eight minutes long, so he wrote the track time as shorter on the album to trick radio stations into playing it.

In an interview he gave to Guitar World magazine in 1993, Page stated that the song 'was made up of little pieces I developed when I was with the Yardbirds, as were other numbers such as 'Dazed and Confused'. It was played live in the studio with cues and nods.'[2] It has also been reported that the 'Rosie' and 'Hunter' components of the song came spontaneously to the group on the night of the recording session.[3]

Live performances

On early Led Zeppelin concert tours, 'How Many More Times' was often the band's closing number. Plant typically introduced the rest of the band during the opening bassline, as can be seen during the Danish TV appearance on the Led Zeppelin DVD. By late 1969, the intro of the song would be quite extended and the band would incorporate more and more material into the song as a medley. An example of such a performance is included on the same DVD, during the Royal Albert Hall concert. During the 'Bolero' section, Plant quotes Neil Young's 'Down by the River.' After 'The Hunter,' the band ad-libs John Lee Hooker's 'Boogie Chillen'', with lyrics from other sources. The band would then go into 'Cumberland Gap' then After 'The Lemon Song', the band would play 'That's Alright Mama' (which is not on the Led Zeppelin DVD but bootlegs show they did play it. Then they return to 'How Many More Times' at the moment where they left off, the conclusion of 'The Hunter.' The typical medley pattern ('Boogie Chillen'' followed by improvisational set of covers and finally a slow blues and a return to the main song) would later be incorporated into 'Whole Lotta Love,' as demonstrated on BBC Sessions and How the West Was Won.

In 1970, 'How Many More Times' was dropped from Led Zeppelin's typical set list, although they would continue to perform it on occasion until the early stages of their 1975 U.S. tour, when it was re-introduced in full as a result of Jimmy Page's injured finger, which temporarily prevented him from playing 'Dazed and Confused'.[4] It was also played once in 1973, on 22 January, while the band was touring the United Kingdom.

The song was used on the soundtrack to the 1970 anti-Vietnam War film Homer.[5] Jimmy Page and Robert Plant would also play the song on their Walking into Clarksdale tour in 1998, releasing their Shepherd's Bush performance on a CD single.

Credits

Personnel
  • Musicians:
    • Jimmy Page – electric guitar, producer, remastering, digital remastering
    • Robert Plant – vocals
    • John Paul Jones – bass guitar
    • John Bonham - drums, percussion
  • Production:
    • Peter Grant – executive producer
    • Glyn Johns - engineer, mixing
    • Joe Sidore - original CD mastering engineer (mid-1980s)
    • George Marino - remastered CD engineer (1990)

References

  1. Lewis, Dave (2012). Led Zeppelin: From a Whisper to a Scream. London: Omnibus Press, 27. ISBN 978-1-78038-547-1. 
  2. Tolinski, Brad; Greg DiBenedetto (May 1993). "Inside the studio with Jimmy Page". Guitar World 14 (5). ISSN 1063-4231.
  3. Lewis, Dave (2012). Led Zeppelin: From a Whisper to a Scream. London: Omnibus Press, 27. ISBN 978-1-78038-547-1. 
  4. Lewis, Dave and Pallett, Simon (2005). Led Zeppelin: The Concert File, Revised. London: Omnibus Press, 240. ISBN 978-1-84449-659-4. 
  5. Homer (1970). Turner Classic Movies. Turner Entertainment. Retrieved on 7 April 2014.