CZ:Proposals/Naming Conventions for Biographies: Revision history

23 February 2009

• curprev 17:3517:35, 23 February 2009‎ imported>Jitse Niesen‎ 70,889 bytes +70,889‎ mark as driverless

11 April 2008

• curprev 14:4214:42, 11 April 2008‎ imported>Richard Jensen‎ 70,861 bytes −130‎ suggested revised policy re royalty: if ambiguity add country = Charles II (England)

8 April 2008

• curprev 08:2308:23, 8 April 2008‎ imported>Daniel Mietchen‎ m 71,238 bytes +1‎ →‎People from English-speaking countries
• curprev 08:1208:12, 8 April 2008‎ imported>David E. Volk‎ 71,237 bytes +246‎ The most deterministic rule ever
• curprev 08:0808:08, 8 April 2008‎ imported>J. Noel Chiappa‎ 70,991 bytes +70,991‎ →‎another deterministic method: Easy cases do not good examples make

7 April 2008

• curprev 23:0923:09, 7 April 2008‎ imported>Hayford Peirce‎ 70,298 bytes +2,859‎ →‎another deterministic method: how long is this discussion going to go on?
• curprev 21:3521:35, 7 April 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 69,422 bytes +1,383‎ →‎another deterministic method: an issue
• curprev 20:5420:54, 7 April 2008‎ imported>Hayford Peirce‎ 69,055 bytes +166‎ →‎another deterministic method: don't overlook my knighthood!
• curprev 19:4419:44, 7 April 2008‎ imported>Aleta Curry‎ 68,889 bytes +850‎ →‎another deterministic method: there ortta be a law!
• curprev 18:0418:04, 7 April 2008‎ imported>Ro Thorpe‎ 68,039 bytes +600‎ Queen & Queen, more like
• curprev 17:4517:45, 7 April 2008‎ imported>Hayford Peirce‎ 67,948 bytes +509‎ →‎another deterministic method: If Billie Jean Moffitt ever played Rene Richards, would that be a case of King and Queen?
• curprev 17:0417:04, 7 April 2008‎ imported>Ro Thorpe‎ 67,439 bytes +340‎ →‎another deterministic method: the Smith-Court Court
• curprev 12:4712:47, 7 April 2008‎ imported>Hayford Peirce‎ 67,099 bytes +3,952‎ →‎another deterministic method: athletes
• curprev 12:0812:08, 7 April 2008‎ imported>David E. Volk‎ 66,538 bytes +407‎ a few deterministic rules
• curprev 11:5711:57, 7 April 2008‎ imported>Ro Thorpe‎ 66,131 bytes +1,437‎ →‎One more question
• curprev 11:0211:02, 7 April 2008‎ imported>Brian P. Long‎ 65,840 bytes +1,146‎ →‎One more question
• curprev 09:4909:49, 7 April 2008‎ imported>J. Noel Chiappa‎ 65,183 bytes +489‎ →‎One more question: Some Romans did have full names
• curprev 09:3209:32, 7 April 2008‎ imported>Ro Thorpe‎ 64,694 bytes +1,547‎ →‎One more question: it's simple

6 April 2008

• curprev 19:3919:39, 6 April 2008‎ imported>Aleta Curry‎ 64,512 bytes +1,365‎ →‎One more question: ohmyachinghead!!!
• curprev 18:3518:35, 6 April 2008‎ imported>Brian P. Long‎ 64,199 bytes +807‎ Brought up Classical people

18 March 2008

• curprev 18:5918:59, 18 March 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 63,392 bytes +245‎ →‎Vote coming soon
• curprev 16:5416:54, 18 March 2008‎ imported>Richard Jensen‎ 63,147 bytes +14,415‎ build on CZ's expertise, do not reject it
• curprev 16:4216:42, 18 March 2008‎ imported>Brian P. Long‎ 62,730 bytes +3,139‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change
• curprev 14:0314:03, 18 March 2008‎ imported>Ro Thorpe‎ 59,591 bytes +132‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change
• curprev 13:5913:59, 18 March 2008‎ imported>Ro Thorpe‎ 59,459 bytes +53‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change
• curprev 13:5713:57, 18 March 2008‎ imported>Ro Thorpe‎ 59,406 bytes +1,819‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: middle initials if normal usage
• curprev 13:5313:53, 18 March 2008‎ imported>Ro Thorpe‎ 59,359 bytes +453‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: not Princess Di but otherwise...
• curprev 13:4813:48, 18 March 2008‎ imported>Ro Thorpe‎ 59,072 bytes +166‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: wacky
• curprev 13:2013:20, 18 March 2008‎ imported>J. Noel Chiappa‎ 58,906 bytes +1,100‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: A slight delay to see if there's a better 'deterministic' suggestion?
• curprev 10:3510:35, 18 March 2008‎ imported>Larry Sanger‎ 58,240 bytes +434‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change
• curprev 09:5609:56, 18 March 2008‎ imported>Hayford Peirce‎ 57,806 bytes +219‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: men = blighters
• curprev 09:0209:02, 18 March 2008‎ imported>David E. Volk‎ m 57,800 bytes +213‎ Formal names please

17 March 2008

• curprev 23:0823:08, 17 March 2008‎ imported>Richard Jensen‎ 57,587 bytes +8,855‎ look at their home page
• curprev 23:0323:03, 17 March 2008‎ imported>Todd Coles‎ 56,801 bytes +580‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: isn't this what we have experts for?
• curprev 22:4922:49, 17 March 2008‎ imported>Hayford Peirce‎ 56,221 bytes +2,119‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: how many millions of person/hours are we gonna waste on this discussion instead of actually WRITING something!?
• curprev 22:1622:16, 17 March 2008‎ imported>J. Noel Chiappa‎ 54,969 bytes +867‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: PS: 'Formal' is not what's important to me
• curprev 20:5220:52, 17 March 2008‎ imported>J. Noel Chiappa‎ 54,102 bytes +5,370‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: fmt, another reply
• curprev 20:4420:44, 17 March 2008‎ imported>J. Noel Chiappa‎ 53,452 bytes +794‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: Fmt, a couple of replies
• curprev 20:3420:34, 17 March 2008‎ imported>Richard Jensen‎ 52,658 bytes +2,037‎ no royal titles
• curprev 19:5619:56, 17 March 2008‎ imported>Aleta Curry‎ 52,360 bytes +1,739‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: boy do I hate edit conflicts
• curprev 19:5019:50, 17 March 2008‎ imported>Ro Thorpe‎ 50,621 bytes 0‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change
• curprev 19:4919:49, 17 March 2008‎ imported>Ro Thorpe‎ 50,621 bytes +1,720‎ No edit summary
• curprev 19:4419:44, 17 March 2008‎ imported>Brian P. Long‎ 50,422 bytes +631‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change
• curprev 19:3319:33, 17 March 2008‎ imported>Richard Jensen‎ 49,791 bytes +890‎ CZ should follow well-established policies of reputable sources
• curprev 18:0918:09, 17 March 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 48,901 bytes +169‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: misleading how?
• curprev 18:0718:07, 17 March 2008‎ imported>Brian P. Long‎ m 48,732 bytes +15,153‎ made contribution look less goofy
• curprev 18:0518:05, 17 March 2008‎ imported>Brian P. Long‎ 48,741 bytes +2,448‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change
• curprev 17:1017:10, 17 March 2008‎ imported>Ro Thorpe‎ 47,265 bytes +203‎ No edit summary
• curprev 17:0417:04, 17 March 2008‎ imported>Richard Jensen‎ 47,062 bytes +769‎ don't midlead users
• curprev 15:0115:01, 17 March 2008‎ imported>J. Noel Chiappa‎ 46,844 bytes +551‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: Replies!
• curprev 14:1514:15, 17 March 2008‎ imported>Richard Jensen‎ 46,293 bytes +3,407‎ rolling back to 1950s
• curprev 13:0113:01, 17 March 2008‎ imported>Ro Thorpe‎ 46,038 bytes +14‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change
• curprev 13:0013:00, 17 March 2008‎ imported>Ro Thorpe‎ 46,024 bytes +1,320‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change
• curprev 12:1712:17, 17 March 2008‎ imported>Hayford Peirce‎ 45,908 bytes +1,204‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: let's consider the great Aussie, "Gentleman Jack Crawford"
• curprev 11:4911:49, 17 March 2008‎ imported>J. Noel Chiappa‎ 44,704 bytes +1,072‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: Another point...
• curprev 11:1211:12, 17 March 2008‎ imported>J. Noel Chiappa‎ 44,078 bytes +446‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: I don't care what's *in* the article
• curprev 10:1010:10, 17 March 2008‎ imported>Ro Thorpe‎ 43,926 bytes +294‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change
• curprev 08:3008:30, 17 March 2008‎ imported>J. Noel Chiappa‎ 43,632 bytes +746‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: This is not about what we call people in articles!
• curprev 05:1005:10, 17 March 2008‎ imported>Brian P. Long‎ 43,197 bytes +185‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change
• curprev 01:1301:13, 17 March 2008‎ imported>Richard Jensen‎ 43,012 bytes +126‎ pointless
• curprev 00:3900:39, 17 March 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 42,886 bytes +9,307‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: not really any consensus yet

14 March 2008

• curprev 16:0816:08, 14 March 2008‎ imported>Aleta Curry‎ 42,269 bytes +5,617‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: Someone's askin' for it!
• curprev 13:3213:32, 14 March 2008‎ imported>Richard Jensen‎ 42,164 bytes +282‎ costume
• curprev 06:0006:00, 14 March 2008‎ imported>Stephen Ewen‎ 42,042 bytes +160‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: What is this....

13 March 2008

• curprev 23:1323:13, 13 March 2008‎ imported>J. Noel Chiappa‎ 41,882 bytes +1,910‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: Not about what we call people in articles; it's only about where we put the article.
• curprev 15:4315:43, 13 March 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 41,250 bytes +1,096‎ →‎Discussion: reply to Brian
• curprev 14:2214:22, 13 March 2008‎ imported>Richard Jensen‎ 40,154 bytes +182‎ 7 sisters
• curprev 08:5108:51, 13 March 2008‎ imported>Robert W King‎ 39,972 bytes +121‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change
• curprev 04:4104:41, 13 March 2008‎ imported>Aleta Curry‎ 39,851 bytes +894‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: some years later....
• curprev 00:5800:58, 13 March 2008‎ imported>Richard Jensen‎ 39,377 bytes +230‎ 1958
• curprev 00:3300:33, 13 March 2008‎ imported>Aleta Curry‎ 39,147 bytes +190‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: 1958?! I wasn't even here yet!

12 March 2008

• curprev 23:2823:28, 12 March 2008‎ imported>Richard Jensen‎ 38,957 bytes +2,305‎ 21st century encyclopeda should not try to restore 1958 standards
• curprev 23:2323:23, 12 March 2008‎ imported>Brian P. Long‎ 38,705 bytes +504‎ →‎A plaintive note
• curprev 21:0121:01, 12 March 2008‎ imported>Stephen Ewen‎ m 38,201 bytes +1‎ In the case of Linda Lovelace, you respect her and name the article by her preference, as far as it can be determined. These are real people and their heirs we are handling here....
• curprev 20:5820:58, 12 March 2008‎ imported>Stephen Ewen‎ 38,200 bytes +1,548‎ →‎Stage names that are no longer desired
• curprev 18:4218:42, 12 March 2008‎ imported>Aleta Curry‎ 37,948 bytes +769‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: I vote formal
• curprev 17:5217:52, 12 March 2008‎ imported>Ro Thorpe‎ 37,179 bytes +527‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change
• curprev 16:3716:37, 12 March 2008‎ imported>Richard Jensen‎ 37,052 bytes +400‎ students will follow our lead
• curprev 16:1916:19, 12 March 2008‎ imported>J. Noel Chiappa‎ 36,759 bytes +107‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: Agree with all of that
• curprev 15:5815:58, 12 March 2008‎ imported>Ro Thorpe‎ 36,652 bytes +3,073‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change
• curprev 15:1815:18, 12 March 2008‎ imported>J. Noel Chiappa‎ 36,141 bytes +1,248‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: Some replies
• curprev 14:3614:36, 12 March 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 34,893 bytes +1,314‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: format
• curprev 14:2814:28, 12 March 2008‎ imported>Richard Jensen‎ 34,895 bytes +339‎ Jimmy for me
• curprev 14:1914:19, 12 March 2008‎ imported>Hayford Peirce‎ 34,556 bytes +977‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: let's go with the common names, ie Jimmy Carter
• curprev 14:1414:14, 12 March 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 33,560 bytes −19‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: slight edit
• curprev 14:0014:00, 12 March 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 33,579 bytes +16,259‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change: add my opinion
• curprev 13:5713:57, 12 March 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 33,182 bytes +1,447‎ →‎Poll regarding suggested change
• curprev 11:1511:15, 12 March 2008‎ imported>J. Noel Chiappa‎ 31,735 bytes +606‎ →‎A plaintive note: Replies

11 March 2008

• curprev 11:1911:19, 11 March 2008‎ imported>Brian P. Long‎ 31,129 bytes +7,048‎ →‎A plaintive note
• curprev 10:4010:40, 11 March 2008‎ imported>Richard Jensen‎ 30,339 bytes +235‎ Jimmy Carter is the man
• curprev 10:3210:32, 11 March 2008‎ imported>Richard Jensen‎ 30,104 bytes +212‎ the other Clinton
• curprev 08:4408:44, 11 March 2008‎ imported>J. Noel Chiappa‎ 29,892 bytes +2,588‎ →‎A plaintive note: Some good points

10 March 2008

• curprev 22:0522:05, 10 March 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 27,304 bytes +3,020‎ →‎A plaintive note: reply with some questions
• curprev 19:5119:51, 10 March 2008‎ imported>J. Noel Chiappa‎ 26,094 bytes +1,810‎ →‎Discussion: A plaintive note

5 March 2008

• curprev 21:3621:36, 5 March 2008‎ imported>Hayford Peirce‎ 24,284 bytes +203‎ →‎Stop the presses: some things will never be etched in stone, just written in the shifting sands of time....
• curprev 20:3520:35, 5 March 2008‎ imported>Aleta Curry‎ 24,081 bytes +482‎ →‎Stop the presses: so it goes
• curprev 17:3117:31, 5 March 2008‎ imported>Ro Thorpe‎ 23,815 bytes +216‎ →‎Stop the presses: it's the Beatles!
• curprev 17:2717:27, 5 March 2008‎ imported>Larry Sanger‎ 23,599 bytes +663‎ →‎Stop the presses
• curprev 17:1717:17, 5 March 2008‎ imported>Hayford Peirce‎ 23,378 bytes +442‎ →‎Stop the presses: I'm happy with a lower case t -- also, I just did 3 redirects
• curprev 17:0817:08, 5 March 2008‎ imported>Ro Thorpe‎ 22,936 bytes +535‎ →‎Stop the presses
• curprev 17:0517:05, 5 March 2008‎ imported>Ro Thorpe‎ 22,885 bytes +484‎ →‎Stop the presses: indeed
• curprev 16:4616:46, 5 March 2008‎ imported>Hayford Peirce‎ 22,401 bytes +5,081‎ →‎Stop the presses: the vexatious question of The Kingston Trio (tm) or the Kingston Trio (as per the NYT [and their old liner notes])
• curprev 16:1416:14, 5 March 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 21,050 bytes −66‎ →‎How to name articles about people: modify proposed first sentence policy and change example
• curprev 15:3415:34, 5 March 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 21,116 bytes 0‎ →‎How to name articles about people: typo
• curprev 15:1315:13, 5 March 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 21,116 bytes +1,905‎ →‎How to name articles about people: minor cleanup

4 March 2008

• curprev 18:3518:35, 4 March 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 21,117 bytes +750‎ →‎People with titles of nobility or royalty: expand and explicate somewhat
• curprev 17:5117:51, 4 March 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 20,367 bytes +307‎ →‎People from countries which do not use the Latin alphabet: update slightly in light of proposal likely to be adopted
• curprev 17:3917:39, 4 March 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 20,060 bytes +849‎ →‎Final review?: name sorting
• curprev 17:3017:30, 4 March 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 19,211 bytes +1,891‎ →‎People from English-speaking countries: Gerald R, not M
• curprev 17:2817:28, 4 March 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 19,211 bytes +436‎ →‎Final review?: CZ:Proposals/Romanization
• curprev 17:1417:14, 4 March 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 18,775 bytes +182‎ →‎Final review?: answer Japanese emperor question

3 March 2008

• curprev 20:0220:02, 3 March 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 18,593 bytes +670‎ →‎Final review?: reply to Aleta
• curprev 19:2319:23, 3 March 2008‎ imported>Aleta Curry‎ 17,923 bytes +603‎ →‎Stage names that are no longer desired: forgot to sign
• curprev 19:1919:19, 3 March 2008‎ imported>Aleta Curry‎ 17,842 bytes +522‎ →‎Final review?: looking good
• curprev 17:1117:11, 3 March 2008‎ imported>Ro Thorpe‎ 17,556 bytes +236‎ →‎Final review?
• curprev 17:0217:02, 3 March 2008‎ imported>Ro Thorpe‎ 17,320 bytes +6,976‎ →‎Final review?
• curprev 14:5914:59, 3 March 2008‎ imported>Hayford Peirce‎ 17,143 bytes +383‎ →‎Final review?: look fine to me
• curprev 13:0913:09, 3 March 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 16,760 bytes +1,179‎ →‎Final review?

20 February 2008

• curprev 13:5013:50, 20 February 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 15,581 bytes +2,535‎ =

15 February 2008

• curprev 14:1214:12, 15 February 2008‎ imported>Larry Sanger‎ 15,577 bytes +523‎ No edit summary
• curprev 14:0914:09, 15 February 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 15,054 bytes +847‎ →‎An addition
• curprev 14:0414:04, 15 February 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 14,584 bytes +377‎ →‎How to name articles about people: add to proposed basic policy
• curprev 13:5813:58, 15 February 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 14,207 bytes +1,161‎ →‎Stage names that are no longer desired: replies
• curprev 00:2900:29, 15 February 2008‎ imported>Aleta Curry‎ 13,446 bytes +400‎ →‎Discussion: true 'nuff

14 February 2008

• curprev 20:4720:47, 14 February 2008‎ imported>Hayford Peirce‎ 13,046 bytes +1,462‎ →‎Stage names that are no longer desired: hypocrisy when confronted by cold cash
• curprev 20:4420:44, 14 February 2008‎ imported>Hayford Peirce‎ 12,653 bytes +818‎ →‎Stage names that are no longer desired: the two Panchos, Big and Little
• curprev 20:1120:11, 14 February 2008‎ imported>Larry Sanger‎ 11,835 bytes +251‎ No edit summary
• curprev 19:5619:56, 14 February 2008‎ imported>Aleta Curry‎ 11,584 bytes +1,240‎ →‎Stage names that are no longer desired
• curprev 19:5219:52, 14 February 2008‎ imported>Ro Thorpe‎ 10,635 bytes +291‎ →‎Stage names that are no longer desired
• curprev 19:3119:31, 14 February 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 10,344 bytes +10,344‎ →‎Stage names that are no longer desired: reply
• curprev 18:5418:54, 14 February 2008‎ imported>Hayford Peirce‎ 9,485 bytes +1,404‎ Hey, Ro, how come you vanished this contribution? Surely it's a discussion? And the heading says it's a discussion section to which anyone can contribute. Aren't I an "anyone" anymore, hehe?
• curprev 18:2918:29, 14 February 2008‎ imported>Ro Thorpe‎ m 8,081 bytes 0‎ →‎Reasoning
• curprev 18:2618:26, 14 February 2008‎ imported>Ro Thorpe‎ m 8,081 bytes +8,081‎ No edit summary
• curprev 18:1518:15, 14 February 2008‎ imported>Hayford Peirce‎ 9,486 bytes +9,486‎ →‎Discussion: Stage names that are no longer desired
• curprev 15:5115:51, 14 February 2008‎ imported>Anthony Argyriou‎ 8,082 bytes +8,082‎ create