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::''For further reading, see [[CZ:Group Editing|Group Editing]] and [[CZ:How to collaborate|How to collaborate]].''
::''For further reading, see [[CZ:Group Editing|Group Editing]] and [[CZ:How to collaborate|How to collaborate]].''


<big>''Edits appear on the ''Citizendium'' only if they have been specifically approved by editors.''</big>
<big>Myth: edits appear on the ''Citizendium'' only if they have been specifically approved by editors.</big>


:Fact: editors ''do not'' approve edits before they appear on the website.  Once you're signed up, you can immediately change any article (or, for approved articles, article draft--[[Biology/Draft|example]]).  Yes, you can.  You really, really can.  Editors ''are not'' standing over your shoulder.  Nor do they want to do so.  They have their own projects here.  Another author is as likely to critique and edit your work as an editor.  It's like we said.  This is a wiki--a real, robust, bottom-up wiki.
:Fact: editors ''do not'' approve edits before they appear on the website.  Once you're signed up, you can immediately change any article (or, for approved articles, article draft--[[Biology/Draft|example]]).  Yes, you can.  You really, really can.  Editors ''are not'' standing over your shoulder.  Nor do they want to do so.  They have their own projects here.  Another author is as likely to critique and edit your work as an editor.  It's like we said.  This is a wiki--a real, robust, bottom-up wiki.
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::''For further reading, see [[CZ:The Editor Role|The Editor Role]].  There's nothing there about approving individual edits!''
::''For further reading, see [[CZ:The Editor Role|The Editor Role]].  There's nothing there about approving individual edits!''


<big>''We're ''Serious.'' We accept only your most careful, painstaking work.  Writing here is like writing a term paper--no fun.  We take ourselves'' Very Seriously.</big>
<big>Myth: we're Serious.  We accept only your most careful, painstaking work.  Writing here is like writing a term paper--no fun.  We take ourselves Very Seriously.''</big>


:Reality: we're a work in progress, and we have fun!  This is a particularly insidious myth for new recruits.  Yes, we have a lot of overeducated people here, who are regularly writing really wonderful prose as if it costs them no effort.  But we also have no problem whatsoever with you making a rough start on any topic, as long as somebody else will be able to pick up where you left off.  We are permanently under construction.  You do not have to be painfully careful, as if we you might break something and people will start screaming at you, or will freeze you out socially, if you do.  We're much more relaxed than that.  We want everybody to be bold, not so careful that you never make any mistakes.  If you're not making any mistakes, you're not participating ''hard enough.''  And you ''don't'' have to write a whole term paper to start an article.  It's OK with us if you start a relatively short article, just a paragraph or two (we call these "stubs").
:Reality: we're a work in progress, and we have fun!  This is a particularly insidious myth for new recruits.  Yes, we have a lot of overeducated people here, who are regularly writing really wonderful prose as if it costs them no effort.  But we also have no problem whatsoever with you making a rough start on any topic, as long as somebody else will be able to pick up where you left off.  We are permanently under construction.  You do not have to be painfully careful, as if we you might break something and people will start screaming at you, or will freeze you out socially, if you do.  We're much more relaxed than that.  We want everybody to be bold, not so careful that you never make any mistakes.  If you're not making any mistakes, you're not participating ''hard enough.''  And you ''don't'' have to write a whole term paper to start an article.  It's OK with us if you start a relatively short article, just a paragraph or two (we call these "stubs").


::''For further reading, see [[CZ:Be Bold|Be Bold]], [[CZ:Under Construction|Under Construction]], and [[CZ:Stubs|Stubs]].''
::''For further reading, see [[CZ:Be Bold|Be Bold]], [[CZ:Under Construction|Under Construction]], and [[CZ:Stubs|Stubs]].''

Revision as of 13:32, 16 June 2008

For whatever reason, the Citizendium has been subject to large amounts of misunderstanding. This page is devoted to correcting those errors.

Myth: we're experts-only.

Fact: we love experts--we admit it. And we want more of them. But this is still a remarkably open project. You can be an author with no degrees and only a basic facility with English. We agree heartily with the larger "Web 2.0" crowd that most reasonably well educated people have something to contribute to a project like this. Our youngest registered members are 13, and we have some active high school students who have done good work.
For further reading, see The Editor Role and The Author Role.

Myth: we're a top-down project, with expert editors giving orders to underlings.

Fact: we're bottom-up. We're a wiki--yes, we really are. If you join, nobody is going to tell you what to do here. You work on the articles you want to work on, when you want to work on them. No editor can simply delete your contributions without a good explanation, and such deletions rarely happen in any case. We are a strongly, "radically," collaborative project. This means we share ownership and work together; nobody "owns" and "gives orders" about anything here. Of course, we aren't the first to use this concept. It really gained currency online with the open source software movement. One of the theorists of that movement was Eric Raymond, who compared communities that create things collaboratively to "bazaars," as opposed to the old-fashioned "cathedral" model where everyone has a role and a function, and orders are given from the top down. (See "The Cathedral and the Bazaar," free to read online.) We, too, are a bazaar. We have merely added "village elders" wandering the bazaar. Their presence does not convert the project into a cathedral; it only helps make the bazaar a little less anarchical and unreliable.
For further reading, see Group Editing and How to collaborate.

Myth: edits appear on the Citizendium only if they have been specifically approved by editors.

Fact: editors do not approve edits before they appear on the website. Once you're signed up, you can immediately change any article (or, for approved articles, article draft--example). Yes, you can. You really, really can. Editors are not standing over your shoulder. Nor do they want to do so. They have their own projects here. Another author is as likely to critique and edit your work as an editor. It's like we said. This is a wiki--a real, robust, bottom-up wiki.
For further reading, see The Editor Role. There's nothing there about approving individual edits!

Myth: we're Serious. We accept only your most careful, painstaking work. Writing here is like writing a term paper--no fun. We take ourselves Very Seriously.

Reality: we're a work in progress, and we have fun! This is a particularly insidious myth for new recruits. Yes, we have a lot of overeducated people here, who are regularly writing really wonderful prose as if it costs them no effort. But we also have no problem whatsoever with you making a rough start on any topic, as long as somebody else will be able to pick up where you left off. We are permanently under construction. You do not have to be painfully careful, as if we you might break something and people will start screaming at you, or will freeze you out socially, if you do. We're much more relaxed than that. We want everybody to be bold, not so careful that you never make any mistakes. If you're not making any mistakes, you're not participating hard enough. And you don't have to write a whole term paper to start an article. It's OK with us if you start a relatively short article, just a paragraph or two (we call these "stubs").
For further reading, see Be Bold, Under Construction, and Stubs.