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== Should you upload the Wikipedia article to the ''Citizendium?'' ==
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== Should you upload that Wikipedia article to ''Citizendium?'' ==
Citizendium encourages original content, but if you do upload your content from WP, please check the "Content is from Wikipedia?" checkbox when you save the page.  Also, please place the [[Template:WPauthor|WPauthor template]] at the top of the talk page (see also [[Template:WPauthor2|WPauthor2 template]]).


Maybe, maybe not.  Your answers to the following questions should all be "Yes":
Many articles still retain "mirrored" content from WP.  If the article has the "Content is from Wikipedia?" checkbox checked, then some of the article's content had previously been uploaded from WP.  Please '''''do not''''' uncheck this checkboxIf you are interested in ameliorating this content, please see how to [[CZ:DeWPify|de-WP-ify]] articles.


* '''Is the Wikipedia article reasonably good?'''  In other words, to create an expert-approvable article, in your judgment, it would be more efficient to edit the article than start over from scratch.  If the Wikipedia article is mediocre, we would prefer that you start over from scratch.
== Article accuracy ==
If you are thinking about importing content from Wikipedia, do some fact-checking to ensure that the content is reliable. General reference works such as the ''Encyclopedia Britannica'' are a good way to check basic facts about a subject. Specialized reference works are better, though. The standard reference works of a discipline are what experts themselves consult, and tend to reflect current scholarship much better than general works.


* '''Do you ''actually'' intend to do significant work on the article sometime in the next hour?'''  If not, don't upload it, or not until you actually want to start working on it.  We are ''not'' creating a mirror of Wikipedia here.
== Improving articles stylistically ==
When you rewrite Wikipedia articles:


== Improving Wikipedia articles stylistically ==
* '''Make sure that the articles are well-written and unified,''' following a coherent, well-organized narrative, not grab-bags of unintegrated facts. 


Many Wikipedia articles have certain stylistic problemsWhen you rewrite them:
* '''Use engaging language,''' not the sleep-inducing prose that some people seem to think is required for encyclopedia articles.  Avoid stilted or hackneyed expressions.


* '''Make sure that the articles are well-written and unified,''' following a coherent, well-organized narrative, not grab-bags of unintegrated factsThe purpose of an encyclopedia article is not just to list out information about a topic, but to contextualize general information about a topic in a single readable "story," as it were.
* '''Remember your audience;''' our goal is to express, not merely impress. Articles on ''Citizendium'' are written for ''the educated person who needs an introduction to the topic''--and ''not'' for the author to catalog very impressively everything he knows on the topic.  Bear in mind that your audience is university-level, unless your topic itself requires a higher-level treatment (cannot be understood "at the undergraduate level").


* '''Craft your sentences using interesting language,''' not the typical vague, unadventurous, and soporific prose that some people seem to think is required for encyclopedia articles.
Also see [[CZ:Introduction_to_CZ_for_Wikipedians#Differences in style, approach and tone|Differences in style, approach and tone]]


* '''Generally, keep your audience in mind.'''  Bear in mind that articles on the ''Citizendium'' are written first and foremost for ''the educated person who needs an introduction to the topic''--and ''not'' for the person writing the article to catalog very impressively everything he knows on the topic.  More particularly, bear in mind that your audience is university-level, unless your topic itself absolutely requires a higher-level treatment (cannot be understood "at the undergraduate level").  You might have to rewrite completely those articles that appear to be written by people more concerned with showing off what they learned in their graduate seminars than actually introducing a topic to people who need an article about the topic.
== Improving article mechanics ==


== Improving Wikipedia article mechanics ==
We follow many of Wikipedia's conventions of mechanics, such as '''bolding''' titles--but not all.  In particular, we are removing many templates, virtually all categories, and all interwiki links.


* Templates should "pay their own way" by actually ''helping'' the user rather than ''distracting'' the user from important information.
=== Templates ===
Templates should ''help'' the user rather than ''distracting'' the user.


== Stuff to delete ==
Delete ''many'' [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages template messages]--particularly the ones that are for contributors and are self-referential.  This includes [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/General#Timing-related_messages timing-related messages], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/General#Expansion_requests expansion requests], and all [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sister_projects Wikimedia sister projects].


Note, while we should delete this stuff in [[:Category:CZ Live|CZ Live]] articles, basically, many of these things can be deleted by a script.
Other templates to delete include: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/Sources_of_articles#Requesting_sources requesting sources], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/Deletion deletion], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/Disputes disputes and warnings], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/Maintenance maintenance], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/Cleanup cleanup], and
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/Lists lists].  


Delete ''many'' [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages template messages]--particularly the ones that are for contributors and are self-referentialThis includes [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/General#Timing-related_messages timing-related messages], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/General#Expansion_requests expansion requests], and all [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sister_projects Wikimedia sister projects].
If you ''do'' retain a template in an article you're working on, for an infobox for example, then upload the template from WikipediaWe will not be uploading the entire Wikipedia template namespace.
 
Many [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Infobox_templates infobox templates] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Navigational_templates navigational templates] need to be completely revisited.  Many are useful, but many are not.


Other templates to delete can, perhaps, be usefully moved to talk pages, including: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/Sources_of_articles#Requesting_sources requesting sources], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/Deletion deletion], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/Disputes disputes and warnings], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/Maintenance maintenance], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/Cleanup cleanup], and
=== Categories ===
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/Lists lists]
Delete all categories not specifically added for the ''Citizendium.''


Many [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Infobox_templates infobox templates] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Navigational_templates navigational templates] need to be completely revisited.  Many are useful, but many are not.


All self-referential material, including all instructions to contributors that are placed either at the top of articles or inline, should either be deleted or moved to the talk page--preferably the former, as more information is usually required to be useful.
=== Interwiki links ===
Delete all of these, but keep internal links to other articles in English.


Categories: delete? This is to debate.
=== Images ===
Please  upload all ''usable'' images from Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons along with ''all licensing information''. Do not upload images that do not have clear licensing data. Do ''not'' upload images (and delete links to these) that were created by someone who ''on Wikipedia'' was using a pseudonym. We must be able to locate the original uploader of all media, and a real name is a minimum requirement.  You might be able to get the person to reveal his or her name for our use here on ''Citizendium;'' you can attempt to contact the person on Wikipedia.


Interwiki links: delete
=== See also ===
* [[CZ:Import]]
* [[CZ:We aren't Wikipedia|We aren't Wikipedia]]
* [[CZ:Introduction to CZ for Wikipedians|Introduction to CZ for Wikipedians]]


Delete links to missing images (''after'' images have been uploaded and we've deleted the ones with questionable licensing).
{{Content Policy}}

Latest revision as of 08:15, 29 June 2012

See also: CZ:Import

Should you upload that Wikipedia article to Citizendium?

Citizendium encourages original content, but if you do upload your content from WP, please check the "Content is from Wikipedia?" checkbox when you save the page. Also, please place the WPauthor template at the top of the talk page (see also WPauthor2 template).

Many articles still retain "mirrored" content from WP. If the article has the "Content is from Wikipedia?" checkbox checked, then some of the article's content had previously been uploaded from WP. Please do not uncheck this checkbox. If you are interested in ameliorating this content, please see how to de-WP-ify articles.

Article accuracy

If you are thinking about importing content from Wikipedia, do some fact-checking to ensure that the content is reliable. General reference works such as the Encyclopedia Britannica are a good way to check basic facts about a subject. Specialized reference works are better, though. The standard reference works of a discipline are what experts themselves consult, and tend to reflect current scholarship much better than general works.

Improving articles stylistically

When you rewrite Wikipedia articles:

  • Make sure that the articles are well-written and unified, following a coherent, well-organized narrative, not grab-bags of unintegrated facts.
  • Use engaging language, not the sleep-inducing prose that some people seem to think is required for encyclopedia articles. Avoid stilted or hackneyed expressions.
  • Remember your audience; our goal is to express, not merely impress. Articles on Citizendium are written for the educated person who needs an introduction to the topic--and not for the author to catalog very impressively everything he knows on the topic. Bear in mind that your audience is university-level, unless your topic itself requires a higher-level treatment (cannot be understood "at the undergraduate level").

Also see Differences in style, approach and tone

Improving article mechanics

We follow many of Wikipedia's conventions of mechanics, such as bolding titles--but not all. In particular, we are removing many templates, virtually all categories, and all interwiki links.

Templates

Templates should help the user rather than distracting the user.

Delete many template messages--particularly the ones that are for contributors and are self-referential. This includes timing-related messages, expansion requests, and all Wikimedia sister projects.

Other templates to delete include: requesting sources, deletion, disputes and warnings, maintenance, cleanup, and lists.

If you do retain a template in an article you're working on, for an infobox for example, then upload the template from Wikipedia. We will not be uploading the entire Wikipedia template namespace.

Many infobox templates and navigational templates need to be completely revisited. Many are useful, but many are not.

Categories

Delete all categories not specifically added for the Citizendium.


Interwiki links

Delete all of these, but keep internal links to other articles in English.

Images

Please upload all usable images from Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons along with all licensing information. Do not upload images that do not have clear licensing data. Do not upload images (and delete links to these) that were created by someone who on Wikipedia was using a pseudonym. We must be able to locate the original uploader of all media, and a real name is a minimum requirement. You might be able to get the person to reveal his or her name for our use here on Citizendium; you can attempt to contact the person on Wikipedia.

See also


Citizendium Content Policy
Approval Standards | Article Mechanics | Subpages | Importing material from other sources | Citable articles
How to Edit
Getting Started Organization Technical Help
Policies Content Policy
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