Archive:Should we confirm stated credentials or check bios cursorily?

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Policy argument summary started March 27, 2007

The issue explained neutrally

See CZ Talk:Application Review Procedure for background to this debate.

Affirmative: check, and require evidence of, any credentials stated in a bio

I would say yes-but make it clear that credentials do not have to be submitted in a bio upon application to be accepted, only proof of identity. Here's why: in my opinion- our first duty is to the reader of the Citizendium and that reader should be able to be educated by the articles here. A basic part of reading any information is evaluating sources, meaning authors. So, even if authors do not ask to be editors, placing bogus credentials on a user page should be prevented if possible. I can google the website of the School of Alternative Medicine in Calculcutta and recognize that it meets the qualifications of a diploma mill - but I believe that citizens should have some assurance that if a user claims to have an MD on his or her user page, that somebody at Citizendium has checked that out. That would mean that we might have to institute yet another rule (oh, no! :-)) but a simple one- degrees and credentials cannot be listed on a user page unless they were listed either in the application or a subsequent e-mail to the constables. Yeah- that's all a lot of work, but actually- not so very much more than we do now, since we do check user bios after account creation. Although the application would have to give full name and location of a degree granting institution, and the date granted, the user bio could be general in order to protect privacy. And speaking of privacy, we need an upfront assuranxce to users and applicants that our database of users will not be sold or shared with third parties. One of the 500 things on the urgent list, for us poor mice and our volunteer efforts on a shoestring budget. But we should put it on the list. Nancy Sculerati 16:03, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

Negative: check only basic bona fides; rely on "soft security" for accuracy of details