Talk:Young earth creationism

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Article status	Developing article: beyond a stub, but incomplete
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Basic cleanup done?	Yes
Checklist last edited by	Matt Innis (Talk) 21:48, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

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Unless the author quickly replaces this initial text with a scholarly introduction - or puts a bibliography here on the discusion page I believe this article should be speedily deleted. Citizendium is a compendium of knowlege and starting a new article requires a committment to scholarship, especially when it is a controversial topic. Nancy Sculerati 17:13, 24 May 2007 (CDT)

I've expanded it, and the article needs editors' help. Thanks! PLEASE do not turn this article into a diatribe against young earth creationism. It should be neutral. Yi Zhe Wu 21:09, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

if true THEN 7 days

literally true means 7 days. Robert Tito |  Talk 

The article needs to be neutral, please do not turn it into a diatribe. Yi Zhe Wu 21:09, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

literally seems to be what it says, literally.

By the way, one cannot invent physical properties, only apply them. Robert Tito |  Talk  21:11, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

one question

can somebody explain to me the role of biology in young earth creationism? That seems quite inappropriate to put biology in creationism. Robert Tito |  Talk  21:24, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

Because the young earth creationism does address some issues about origin of organisms, which is within the purview of biology. But I'm not sure. If the biology workgroup guys have the consensus to remove the workgroup designation, they are free to do so. Yi Zhe Wu 21:30, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

never mind Robert Tito |  Talk  21:40, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

Sorry if I write something wrong there, I'm only a teenager, not an expert in anything. Yi Zhe Wu 21:44, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

I've removed the word 'theory' and altered a phrase to distance science from any suggestion that it could be a submissable claim. John Stephenson 22:28, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

And the reason is...? Yi Zhe Wu 22:32, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

Because it's not a theory; we should be careful to avoid discussing belief in scientific terms. John Stephenson 22:55, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

of minimal importance Robert Tito |  Talk 

could you please state all peer-reviewed magazines that censored articles about this topic, as well as their reasons? Robert Tito |  Talk  22:47, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

Well, I just put there the one I found, don't know about the others. I'm not an expert. Sorry. But I will try to add more information about the subject. Of course, it's better if experts begin to edit this article. Yi Zhe Wu 23:15, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

That was not from a peer-reviewed magazine. Hence my question. Robert Tito |  Talk  23:18, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

Yeah, I agree that more peer-reviewed magazine should be cited. If you can access JSTOR it would be good. Too much controversy is going on with the subject of this article...ehh...I think it's better for me to not get too far involved in content issues. I gotta go write my history paper on John C. Calhoun now. Yi Zhe Wu 23:22, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

Inclusion of censorship allegation

The lawsuit of Robert Gentry was brought up in court, and legal documents can prove that. So it's not a spurious one. Regards. Yi Zhe Wu 23:27, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

Anyways, I have to go write my Calhoun paper for school now. Tonight I've written this article about young earth creationism and I think editors can improve it, since I'm not an expert. Good night everyone. Yi Zhe Wu 23:30, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

Robert V. Gentry - and this entry

Mr. Gentry's doctorate is not an earned degree, it's an honorary degree from Columbia Union College, an unaccredited religious school in Takoma Park, Maryland, operated by Seventh Day Adventists. So far as I have been able to determine, he is not a nuclear physicist, and is only described as such on creationist websites.

I would agree with the earlier comments that the present form of this entry is not what we want for CZ -- if it can't be taken up by an editor or author in the Religion workgroup, it would be better to delete it for now until we can have a fresh start from a scholarly viewpoint. Russell Potter 09:36, 26 May 2007 (CDT)

Thanks, I've asked editor Richard Jensen to take a look and see how it goes. If it can be improved, then no need for deletion. Yi Zhe Wu 09:39, 26 May 2007 (CDT)

Biology Workgroup removed

This article seems to have been put in the biology workgroup by mistake, or by following a precedent of the placement of the article intelligent design. A case can be made for the latter, but including a fundamentalist religious interpretation of the origin of life sets a precedent that every religious account of the creation of life on earth requires the biology workgroup's oversight. As part of that workgroup, I object to this. Nancy Sculerati 09:42, 26 May 2007 (CDT)