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Evaluating articles 2018

Start February 12, vote February 23

Previously approved article for reevaluation

• History of agriculture/Citable Version
  

I stand by the rude comments I made on the Talk page of this article. It is no defence of the decision to approve to say that "CZ urgently needs approved articles" if they are as inadequate as this. If it is to be re-approved (I hope not), it should be the updated version which includes my improvements (though these are themselves inadequate). --Martin Wyatt (talk) 20:21, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

I agree substantially with Martin and I add the following comments: (a) the subject, History of agriculture, is too large a topic than one article can cover with as few sub-topics as this article contains; (b) as it stands, the referencing is grossly inadequate; for example, the long section on agriculture in the Middle Ages has no references at all; (c) most of the references in the reference section have no online links.

I suggest we remove this article as a citable version and encourage interested users to consider alternate ways to structure the topic. Anthony.Sebastian (talk) 00:53, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Previously nominated article for consideration of approval

• Liquefied natural gas
  

I see no reason to differ from the very positive views expressed on the talk page. However, this article reinforces my prejudice against quoting online sources rather than printed ones. As far as I can see none of the links, except the one to a printed source, is now working. I could have a go at repairing some of them, but I am not good at that sort of thing. --Martin Wyatt (talk) 20:28, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

I see Martin's point about the references. I tested the first 10 online references, and none of them worked. I suggest withholding approval on this article until such time as Users can rectify the references. If the reader cannot access the references, the article cannot be approved. Anthony.Sebastian (talk) 22:54, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

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Start January 22, vote February 2

Result of voting

By majority vote, the Approvals Committee approves Industrial cooling tower and re-certifies Jane Addams/Citable Version. We encourage users to work on the Main Article Jane Addams for consideration of re-approval.

Previously nominated article for evaluation of approval:

• Industrial cooling tower

This article seems approvable, and I would vote yes unless otherwise convinced by the other members of the Committee. Anthony.Sebastian (talk) 22:14, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

My only problem is that the links on references 3 and 9 no longer work, and the link on reference 5 timed out, so I don't know whether it works or not. --Martin Wyatt (talk) 15:06, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Martin, I fixed the three references you referred to. They now work. Anthony.Sebastian (talk) 22:57, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Previously approved article for reevaluation:

• Jane Addams/Citable Version

I have a little knowledge of the history of the settlement movement in Britain, but none of that in America, so I just take an independent view of it. If we are going to re-approve this article, the question is which version. The Main Article contains a number of changes to the Citable Version which are, I think, mostly improvements. The main exception to this is the deletion of the paragraph on lesbianism. There was considerable discussion on the talk page about this paragraph prior to approval, and in the end a change was made in a footnote. Some time after the approval, Russell D Jones, who had taken no part in the previous discussion, removed the whole paragraph without giving any reason that I can discover. There doubtless is a reason, but it cannot be judged. My own inclination would be (1) to use the Main Article, but (2) to reinstate the paragraph, and (3) to promote the comment in the footnote to the text. --Martin Wyatt (talk) 20:48, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

I labeled the current citable version, "Version 1, 17-Aug-2013", in the event we want to follow Martin's suggestion. I think the article is ok in its current citable version. The main article needs further work: there has been 3910 new articles/books published since 2014 under Google Scholar search term, "Jane Addams" biography. Some of those should be incorporated into the main article, both as text and references. Also, the referencing needs more links to online versions/excerpts. The section on further reading could use annotating. My preference could be to vote yes on keeping the current citable version as is, then reconsidering the main article for re-approval after it has been reworked. Anthony.Sebastian (talk) 01:03, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

I have just realised that the deadline for this is almost on us, so will just say that it looks as though we will do what Anthony suggests, which is fine to me. --Martin Wyatt (talk) 10:23, 1 February 2018 (UTC)