CZ:Proposals/Recipes Subpage and Accompanying Usage Policy

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This proposal has not yet been assigned to any decisionmaking group or decisionmaker(s).
The Proposals Manager will do so soon if and when the proposal or issue is "well formed" (including having a driver).
For now, the proposal record can be found in the new proposals queue.

Complete explanation

A new subpage type should be created CZ:Recipes. Anyone interested may take the lead in creating CZ:Recipes and then the Recipe subpage support should be added to the subpage system. The subpage may be bilaterally linked with the Cooking page. Cooking is core article in the Food Science category, I have added it to the Hobbies workgroup as well. However, presently there isn't any page on recipe. Various people discussed this in various talk spaces, including most recently, the talk pages of Bolognese sauce and CZ Talk: Food Science Workgroup# Recipes/Receipts but nothing concrete appears to have come of those discussions.

Reasoning

Another option considered was to make it a tutorial.

Implementation

After some more discussion this may become clear.

Discussion

I'd be glad to participate if I had the foggiest notion of what was going on. Ah well, I'll start anyway.

Some issues

  1. Options: well, we could have a recipe tab as a subpage, or we could start separate CZ how-to workbooks. I see no reason for the latter, since we have clusters, and think a recipe tab system would work well.
  2. It would make sense for there to be a catalogue of recipes somewhere. One could browse the catalogue for a list of things to make for dinner, or go right to the cluster if you knew e.g. you were looking for a recipe for ragu. Not that I think CZ would be the first stop for recipes.
  3. Somewhere, someone (I think Hayford wrote that recipes should not be editable by just anyone. I think this is a valid point. Drive-by editing can just ruin a good recipe, and significantly alter an authentic one. I think this should be given consideration.

Aleta Curry 15:18, 13 February 2008 (CST)

Proposer remarks

Geez, now do I have rewrite this whole thing again?! This is baffling!

Anyway, my question is very simple: what are we going to do about the recipes that I am inserting into various articles? Make them subpages? Classify them in some index somewhere? Start a new tab for "Recipes" at the top of pages on which that would be a useful feature. Index them somehow at some central repository? Catalog them? List them?

The point is that they should be easily accessible, and easily findable. We're not quite yet at the point where we can offer competition to the Larousse Gastronomique, but on the other hand, the recipes I've put in are a *lot* more practical and easy to follow than anything you're ever going to find in the Larousse except, maybe, a boiled egg....Hayford Peirce 19:20, 12 February 2008 (CST)

Sorry you found the system baffling. Obviously, you don't have to rewrite the summary on the proposal page. The proposal page is supposed to detail the issue as you wish to raise it. For further instructions, see CZ:Proposals/Policy, where it's explained.

You've asked a question, but you didn't formulate it as an issue, i.e., as a decision among two or more options; but you didn't detail any options. Are you expecting someone else to lay out some specific options? But why not you? The system is designed as a venue where you can say, "Here are the options and I think we must pick one," or "Here is how to do something that must be done." If you don't want to spell out the issue in detail, well, maybe someone else will for you... --Larry Sanger 20:56, 12 February 2008 (CST)

Experimenting

I'd like to test the system by acting as a driver. Supten Sarbadhikari 21:51, 12 February 2008 (CST)

Please do, because I'm completely at sea here! Hayford Peirce 10:13, 13 February 2008 (CST)

Thanks, Supten! The first think to do is to read through CZ:Proposals/Policy and, if you have any questions, particularly if anything is poorly explained (or unexplained), won't you please let me know? I am not quite finished with it, but I'm close. One thing I haven't done is explained what the Proposals Manager does, and when. I'll be adding a section about that soon. --Larry Sanger 22:44, 12 February 2008 (CST)

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