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==Overview== | ==Overview== | ||
Contrary to popular myth, the band name was never titled Hobbstweedle or connected with [[J. R. R. Tolkien]] literature, despite Plant's interest in that author's work. The name Obs-Tweedle originated from Bill Bonham's father and band manager, William Bonham, Sr., who allegedly selected the words from a dictionary when they couldn't agree on any names. Obs is an abbreviation for 'obscure', and Tweedle means 'sound'<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=Tweedle&searchmode=none|title=Online Etymology Dictionary: Tweedle|author=Harper, Douglas| accessdate=2010 | Contrary to popular myth, the band name was never titled Hobbstweedle or connected with [[J. R. R. Tolkien]] literature, despite Plant's interest in that author's work. The name Obs-Tweedle originated from Bill Bonham's father and band manager, William Bonham, Sr., who allegedly selected the words from a dictionary when they couldn't agree on any names. Obs is an abbreviation for 'obscure', and Tweedle means 'sound'<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=Tweedle&searchmode=none|title=Online Etymology Dictionary: Tweedle|author=Harper, Douglas| accessdate=1 March 2010}}</ref>; which may have reflected the band's offbeat repertoire at the time. | ||
{{Image|Obs-Tweedle.jpg|left|160px|Advertisement in the Wednesday 13 March 1968 edition of the West Midlands newspaper ''Express & Star'', for Obs-Tweedle's first ever concert, at the Three Men in a Boat pub.}} | {{Image|Obs-Tweedle.jpg|left|160px|Advertisement in the Wednesday 13 March 1968 edition of the West Midlands newspaper ''Express & Star'', for Obs-Tweedle's first ever concert, at the Three Men in a Boat pub.}} | ||
The band were formerly known as | The band were formerly known as the Answer, a group which had toured [[Europe]], and renamed themselves after ex-[[Band of Joy]] singer Robert Plant joined their line-up. Plant and his future wife Maureen Wilson were in the audience at one gig at Dudley Zoo to see the Answer perform, when Plant was invited to join the band after their singer Tommy Burton experienced a bout of food poisoning.<ref>{{cite journal|author=Deevoy, Adrian|title=Dear Superstar: Robert Plant|year=2002|month=15 August|journal=Blender|volume=|issue=|pages=|url=http://www.blender.com/guide/67075/dear-superstar-robert-plant.html|id=ISSN 1534-0554|accessdate=5 June 2009}}</ref> Both Bill Bonham and Plant lived in upstairs rooms at the [[Three Men in a Boat (public house)|Three Men in a Boat]] public house in [[Bloxwich]], a venue which the band also used for rehearsals. Their first ever performance was held there on Wednesday 13 March 1968. The Three Men in a Boat pub was owned by Bill Bonham's father, and would also be the future destination in which manager [[Peter Grant]] would send the telegram to confirm Plant was in Led Zeppelin, and later dozens of telegrams to get local John Bonham to sign-up with the band.<ref>{{cite news|last=Webster|first=Terry|title=John Bonham's Led Zeppelin gong up for auction|date=28 May 2009|url=http://www.birminghampost.net/life-leisure-birmingham-guide/birmingham-culture/music-in-birmingham/2009/05/28/john-bonham-s-led-zeppelin-gong-up-for-auction-65233-23727442/|work=The Birmingham Post|accessdate=7 March 2010}}</ref> | ||
Other members which passed through the Obs-Tweedle line-up included Richard Brown on guitar, Mac Bailey on drums, and Barry Sargeant on drums.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.brumbeat.net/obstweed.htm|title=Brumbeat: Obstweedle|publisher=Brum Beat| accessdate=2009 | Other members which passed through the Obs-Tweedle line-up included Richard Brown on guitar, Mac Bailey on drums, and Barry Sargeant on drums.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.brumbeat.net/obstweed.htm|title=Brumbeat: Obstweedle|publisher=Brum Beat| accessdate=20 April 2009}}</ref> Their music was influenced by the West Coast sounds of America, in particular Moby Grape and Buffalo Springfield, of which Plant was a fan. Plant later admitted 'the band overplayed and there was a lot of hubbub and flash but no real content'.<ref>{{cite journal|author=Williamson, Nigel|title=Good Times...Bad Times|year=2005|month=May|journal=Uncut|volume=|issue=|pages=55|id=ISSN 1368-0722|accessdate=5 June 2009}}</ref> The band recorded a number of songs for a demo on 15 May 1968, but these tracks have never surfaced since with their current status unknown.<ref>{{cite news|title=Recording news this week|date=2 May 1968|work=Express and Star|accessdate=20 April 2009}}</ref> Songs recorded included covers of 'Mr. Soul', and 'Rock and Roll Woman', with local producer and engineer Terry Rowley (from the Montanas and Trapeze). | ||
==The New Yardbirds== | ==The New Yardbirds== | ||
{{Main|Led Zeppelin}} | {{Main|Led Zeppelin}} | ||
It was whilst performing with this band at the West Midlands College of Education in [[Gorway]] on Saturday 20 July 1968, that Yardbirds [[Jimmy Page]], [[Chris Dreja]], and manager Peter Grant first saw Plant.<ref>{{cite book|last=Clayson|first=Alan|year=2002|title=The Yardbirds: The Band That Launched Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page|edition=1st|location=San Francisco|publisher=Backbeat Books|pages=193|isbn=0-87930-724-2}}</ref> Page had been recommended Plant by [[Terry Reid]], who had been Page's first choice vocalist for what would become Led Zeppelin.<ref>{{cite news|last=Revoir|first=Paul|title=The singer who turned down Led Zeppelin (but recommended Robert Plant)|date=10 December 2007|url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-500903/The-singer-turned-Led-Zeppelin-recommended-Robert-Plant.html|work=Daily Mail|accessdate=2009 | It was whilst performing with this band at the West Midlands College of Education in [[Gorway]] on Saturday 20 July 1968, that Yardbirds [[Jimmy Page]], [[Chris Dreja]], and manager Peter Grant first saw Plant.<ref>{{cite book|last=Clayson|first=Alan|year=2002|title=The Yardbirds: The Band That Launched Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page|edition=1st|location=San Francisco|publisher=Backbeat Books|pages=193|isbn=0-87930-724-2}}</ref> Page had been recommended Plant by [[Terry Reid]], who had been Page's first choice vocalist for what would become Led Zeppelin.<ref>{{cite news|last=Revoir|first=Paul|title=The singer who turned down Led Zeppelin (but recommended Robert Plant)|date=10 December 2007|url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-500903/The-singer-turned-Led-Zeppelin-recommended-Robert-Plant.html|work=Daily Mail|accessdate=20 April 2009}}</ref> As Grant recalled later: | ||
{{Quote|This big guy [Plant] with a [[University of Toronto]] sweatshirt appeared to let us in backstage and I remember Jimmy saying, 'Crikey, they've got a big roadie!' He came back and it turned out to be Robert Plant! Jimmy loved Robert straight away.<ref>{{cite book|last=Welch|first=Chris|year=2002|title=Peter Grant: The Man Who Led Zeppelin|edition=1st|location=London|publisher=Omnibus Press|pages=55|isbn=0-7119-9195-2}}</ref>}} | {{Quote|This big guy [Plant] with a [[University of Toronto]] sweatshirt appeared to let us in backstage and I remember Jimmy saying, 'Crikey, they've got a big roadie!' He came back and it turned out to be Robert Plant! Jimmy loved Robert straight away.<ref>{{cite book|last=Welch|first=Chris|year=2002|title=Peter Grant: The Man Who Led Zeppelin|edition=1st|location=London|publisher=Omnibus Press|pages=55|isbn=0-7119-9195-2}}</ref>}} | ||
Plant later explained: | Plant later explained: | ||
{{Quote|I was appearing at this college when Peter [Grant] and Jimmy [Page] turned up and asked me if I'd like to join [[ | {{Quote|I was appearing at this college when Peter [Grant] and Jimmy [Page] turned up and asked me if I'd like to join [[the Yardbirds]]. I knew the Yardbirds had done a lot of work in America - which to me meant audiences who want to know what I might have to offer - so naturally I was very interested.<ref>{{cite journal|last=Fortnam|first=Ian|year=2008|title=Dazed & Confused|journal=Classic Rock|pages=38|id=issn 1464-7834|accessdate=2 March 2010}}</ref>}} | ||
After hearing him sing, Plant was subsequently invited to Page's home in [[Pangbourne]], [[Berkshire]] to discuss musical ideas, and play records including Muddy Waters' 'You Shook Me', Joan Baez's version of 'Babe I'm Gonna Leave | After hearing him sing, Plant was subsequently invited to Page's home in [[Pangbourne]], [[Berkshire]] to discuss musical ideas, and play records including Muddy Waters' 'You Shook Me', Joan Baez's version of 'Babe I'm Gonna Leave | ||
You', Fairport Convention's 'If I Had a Ribbon Bow', Larry Williams' 'She Said Yeah', and 'Justine' by Don & Dewey.<ref>{{cite journal|author=Snow, Mat|title=Robert Plant's Record Collection|year=1990|month=May|journal=Q|volume=|issue=1784|pages=54|url=http://backpages.com/article.html?ArticleID=1784|id=ISSN 0955-4955|accessdate=2009 | You', Fairport Convention's 'If I Had a Ribbon Bow', Larry Williams' 'She Said Yeah', and 'Justine' by Don & Dewey.<ref>{{cite journal|author=Snow, Mat|title=Robert Plant's Record Collection|year=1990|month=May|journal=Q|volume=|issue=1784|pages=54|url=http://backpages.com/article.html?ArticleID=1784|id=ISSN 0955-4955|accessdate=5 June 2009}}</ref> Within days Plant was offered the job of vocalist, at the end of July 1968. Obs-Tweedle briefly continued for a fortnight after Plant left, and finally folded when Bill Bonham was invited to join Terry Reid's backing group on keyboards and bass guitar, via recommendation by Plant. Bailey joined First Chapter. | ||
==Notes== | ==Notes== | ||
{{reflist}} | {{reflist}} | ||
Revision as of 06:35, 10 April 2010
| Obs-Tweedle | |
| Years active | 1968 |
| Status | Defunct |
| Origin | Walsall, West Midlands |
| Music genre(s) | Blues rock, rock |
| Members | Robert Plant Bill Bonham Richard Brown Mac Bailey Barry Sargeant |
Obs-Tweedle was a Walsall-based 1960s rock band notable for singer Robert Plant's appearance prior to joining Led Zeppelin. The band also featured Bill Bonham, a cousin of future Led Zeppelin drummer John Bonham, on keyboards and bass guitar.
Overview
Contrary to popular myth, the band name was never titled Hobbstweedle or connected with J. R. R. Tolkien literature, despite Plant's interest in that author's work. The name Obs-Tweedle originated from Bill Bonham's father and band manager, William Bonham, Sr., who allegedly selected the words from a dictionary when they couldn't agree on any names. Obs is an abbreviation for 'obscure', and Tweedle means 'sound'[1]; which may have reflected the band's offbeat repertoire at the time.
The band were formerly known as the Answer, a group which had toured Europe, and renamed themselves after ex-Band of Joy singer Robert Plant joined their line-up. Plant and his future wife Maureen Wilson were in the audience at one gig at Dudley Zoo to see the Answer perform, when Plant was invited to join the band after their singer Tommy Burton experienced a bout of food poisoning.[2] Both Bill Bonham and Plant lived in upstairs rooms at the Three Men in a Boat public house in Bloxwich, a venue which the band also used for rehearsals. Their first ever performance was held there on Wednesday 13 March 1968. The Three Men in a Boat pub was owned by Bill Bonham's father, and would also be the future destination in which manager Peter Grant would send the telegram to confirm Plant was in Led Zeppelin, and later dozens of telegrams to get local John Bonham to sign-up with the band.[3]
Other members which passed through the Obs-Tweedle line-up included Richard Brown on guitar, Mac Bailey on drums, and Barry Sargeant on drums.[4] Their music was influenced by the West Coast sounds of America, in particular Moby Grape and Buffalo Springfield, of which Plant was a fan. Plant later admitted 'the band overplayed and there was a lot of hubbub and flash but no real content'.[5] The band recorded a number of songs for a demo on 15 May 1968, but these tracks have never surfaced since with their current status unknown.[6] Songs recorded included covers of 'Mr. Soul', and 'Rock and Roll Woman', with local producer and engineer Terry Rowley (from the Montanas and Trapeze).
The New Yardbirds
It was whilst performing with this band at the West Midlands College of Education in Gorway on Saturday 20 July 1968, that Yardbirds Jimmy Page, Chris Dreja, and manager Peter Grant first saw Plant.[7] Page had been recommended Plant by Terry Reid, who had been Page's first choice vocalist for what would become Led Zeppelin.[8] As Grant recalled later:
| ‘ | This big guy [Plant] with a University of Toronto sweatshirt appeared to let us in backstage and I remember Jimmy saying, 'Crikey, they've got a big roadie!' He came back and it turned out to be Robert Plant! Jimmy loved Robert straight away.[9] | ’ |
Plant later explained:
| ‘ | I was appearing at this college when Peter [Grant] and Jimmy [Page] turned up and asked me if I'd like to join the Yardbirds. I knew the Yardbirds had done a lot of work in America - which to me meant audiences who want to know what I might have to offer - so naturally I was very interested.[10] | ’ |
After hearing him sing, Plant was subsequently invited to Page's home in Pangbourne, Berkshire to discuss musical ideas, and play records including Muddy Waters' 'You Shook Me', Joan Baez's version of 'Babe I'm Gonna Leave You', Fairport Convention's 'If I Had a Ribbon Bow', Larry Williams' 'She Said Yeah', and 'Justine' by Don & Dewey.[11] Within days Plant was offered the job of vocalist, at the end of July 1968. Obs-Tweedle briefly continued for a fortnight after Plant left, and finally folded when Bill Bonham was invited to join Terry Reid's backing group on keyboards and bass guitar, via recommendation by Plant. Bailey joined First Chapter.
Notes
- ↑ Harper, Douglas. Online Etymology Dictionary: Tweedle. Retrieved on 1 March 2010.
- ↑ Deevoy, Adrian (15 August 2002). "Dear Superstar: Robert Plant". Blender. ISSN 1534-0554. Retrieved on 5 June 2009.
- ↑ Webster, Terry. John Bonham's Led Zeppelin gong up for auction, The Birmingham Post, 28 May 2009. Retrieved on 7 March 2010.
- ↑ Brumbeat: Obstweedle. Brum Beat. Retrieved on 20 April 2009.
- ↑ Williamson, Nigel (May 2005). "Good Times...Bad Times". Uncut: 55. ISSN 1368-0722. Retrieved on 5 June 2009.
- ↑ "Recording news this week", Express and Star, 2 May 1968. Retrieved on 20 April 2009.
- ↑ Clayson, Alan (2002). The Yardbirds: The Band That Launched Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, 1st. San Francisco: Backbeat Books, 193. ISBN 0-87930-724-2.
- ↑ Revoir, Paul. The singer who turned down Led Zeppelin (but recommended Robert Plant), Daily Mail, 10 December 2007. Retrieved on 20 April 2009.
- ↑ Welch, Chris (2002). Peter Grant: The Man Who Led Zeppelin, 1st. London: Omnibus Press, 55. ISBN 0-7119-9195-2.
- ↑ Fortnam, Ian (2008). "Dazed & Confused". Classic Rock: 38. issn 1464-7834. Retrieved on 2 March 2010.
- ↑ Snow, Mat (May 1990). "Robert Plant's Record Collection". Q (1784): 54. ISSN 0955-4955. Retrieved on 5 June 2009.