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Peter, if you are anything like me (and I suspect you are) it's sometimes nice to switch around rather than stay dead on in one topic. That's my excuse for asking you to take a look at [[Cancer]], I started this some time ago. I did not find the wikipedia article at all appealing, though I have forgotten why. So, when I started it, I started from scratch- again with the idea that the article should be strictly accurate, but aimed at the highest level of patient education rather than being a pretend medical textbook. On the other hand, if the goal of being truly at the ''highest'' level of patient education is reached, then it serves for professionals as well (just without jargon and trying to stay kind and hopeful). That's the theory, anyway- and since the internet is probably the primary source of educated people's current health information- and since there are few or no comprehensive and readable sites aimed at the intelligent, literate patient, I think CZ can really serve a good purpose here. That's my pitch! [[User:Nancy Sculerati|Nancy Sculerati]] 11:47, 2 May 2007 (CDT)
Peter, if you are anything like me (and I suspect you are) it's sometimes nice to switch around rather than stay dead on in one topic. That's my excuse for asking you to take a look at [[Cancer]], I started this some time ago. I did not find the wikipedia article at all appealing, though I have forgotten why. So, when I started it, I started from scratch- again with the idea that the article should be strictly accurate, but aimed at the highest level of patient education rather than being a pretend medical textbook. On the other hand, if the goal of being truly at the ''highest'' level of patient education is reached, then it serves for professionals as well (just without jargon and trying to stay kind and hopeful). That's the theory, anyway- and since the internet is probably the primary source of educated people's current health information- and since there are few or no comprehensive and readable sites aimed at the intelligent, literate patient, I think CZ can really serve a good purpose here. That's my pitch! [[User:Nancy Sculerati|Nancy Sculerati]] 11:47, 2 May 2007 (CDT)
::That's so considerate of you, but please- don't bother. Edit and revise the article itself. It's ''such'' a big topic and I welcome your input.I know a little something about cancer, from a biological standpoint, but I'm no expert, and my clinical experience has been very skewed- head and neck malignancies, pediatric malignancies, and brain cancers, so really, do what you will. I'll help. By the way- I agree, linking is good for the different types of cancers. However, I do think a couple of lines about the major ones is also needed. So many people really do not understand that "the cancer that they found in the liver" is ''not'' "liver cancer", for example- and it would be good  to lay that out upfront right there in that article. I think., anyway. Not a whole summary of the stats and such for each type of cancer, just what that cancer is- it is likely that at least some people will look at that article ([[Cancer]]) with a certain kind of cancer in mind, and not know the right term for it. Having a whole list of the terms, or terms with links, does not help them. [[User:Nancy Sculerati|Nancy Sculerati]] 12:56, 2 May 2007 (CDT)
:Good point about what people are looking for...thanks.[[User:Peter A. Lipson|Peter A. Lipson]] 12:59, 2 May 2007 (CDT)
Peter, from my point of view, the contraception article should stick to contraception. Here's why, we are dedicated to providing accurate medical articles for the whole world here- not easy, but a worthwhile goal - I think you agree.So bear me out a moment, when I read these articles I remember my patients, and the parents of my patients. I read that initial paragraph in "Contraception" and I - I can't help it- I see the faces of my patients at the Nigerian Christian Hospital in cross river state where I spent just a month, but remains one of the most formative experiences of my life. I was a second year surgical resident and I really was no good at delivering babies, and I didn't need to be the Nigerian midwives were great, but I did C-sections, most nights- all night, with a group of wonderful missionary surgeons. It was a poor area and some of these women, who could not afford to go to Enugu were brought to us through the bush with foot presentations after days in labor. No respectable Ibo woman refuses her husband and some of the patiemts had advanced heart disease and other problems such that additional preganacy was life threatening. I got to know my patients well in that short time. I got to know the mothers of the kids at the pediatric clinic at Bellevue in '88 and '89 too, many of them come up from San Salvador with the survivivors of their families. The refugees change at Bellevue in the patient population, from nation to nation and war to war, but the rapes are always the same. This article does not and should not go into this, this horror of the world, but it is not a pamplet to be handed out in some middle class junior high school in the US. Contraception is contraception, period. If you are going to start up on ways to modify sexual activity (such as abstinence) to avoid preganacy, then you open the door to every sexual fetish that can accopmplish the same thing without "abstinence". Why go there? Why not stick to what is mediaclly known about contraception? There are other articles that can be written about pre-marital sex, sociology and demogaphics of it. THIS IS NOT THAT ARTICLE. my strong feeling, [[User:Nancy Sculerati|Nancy Sculerati]] 13:35, 3 May 2007 (CDT)
::Im with you completely, and Im working on it.  Thanks. See my email.[[User:Peter A. Lipson|Peter A. Lipson]] 13:40, 3 May 2007 (CDT)

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I think you have started some really great articles. We should cncentrate on developing Hypertension, Tuberculosis, Myocardial Infarction and Stroke before starting more, I think. There is an active hematologist on the wiki, and he may help.Nancy Sculerati 23:32, 27 April 2007 (CDT)

Thanks much. I'm currently working on stroke, then ill move toward htn.--Peter A. Lipson 23:34, 27 April 2007 (CDT)

Well, thanks for your message. It's fun to collaborate, so glad you are here.Nancy Sculerati 20:00, 30 April 2007 (CDT)

No, I wish I did. Nancy Sculerati 14:41, 1 May 2007 (CDT)

LOL Peter, you don't know the depth of cluelessness you are dealing with in me- I have never been able to do any references- at all! I have NO idea what you are talking about. :-) Nancy Sculerati 15:31, 1 May 2007 (CDT)

I believe you can also assign a reference a name, as in:

<ref name="whatever">The body of the reference goes here</ref>

and then refer to it by name afterwards. (I don't think I've tried to do this - mostly because I think having a bunch of arrows next to a refeence looks really ugly.) Greg Woodhouse 15:48, 1 May 2007 (CDT)

I've tried the name thing, I just have trouble re-referencing it afterwords. I'm working on that. Thanks.Peter A. Lipson 20:20, 1 May 2007 (CDT)

You write along and include a reference, just use: <ref>the book name or link you want people to see</ref>. At the end of the article, <references/> will flush out what you want people to see and number all of the references into a nice list. Whatever is placed between <ref> and </ref> then appears in the nice, numbered list. . . The specialized <ref name="whatever">any book, link or message here</ref> would be a reference that you wanted to refer to more than once. To use it anytime later in an article, <ref name=whatever />. In the article a little number will jump to that single reference. CZ:How to edit an article#References and citations Terry E. Olsen 22:05, 1 May 2007 (CDT)

Thank you for your comment

Thank you for commenting at Talk:Scientology_(theory), the article has been renamed from (the philosophy) to (theory) and we're still working on it. I re-wrote what I thought you commented on and would appreciate further comments, if you would wish to. Terry E. Olsen 17:49, 1 May 2007 (CDT)

Would you please take a look?

Peter, if you are anything like me (and I suspect you are) it's sometimes nice to switch around rather than stay dead on in one topic. That's my excuse for asking you to take a look at Cancer, I started this some time ago. I did not find the wikipedia article at all appealing, though I have forgotten why. So, when I started it, I started from scratch- again with the idea that the article should be strictly accurate, but aimed at the highest level of patient education rather than being a pretend medical textbook. On the other hand, if the goal of being truly at the highest level of patient education is reached, then it serves for professionals as well (just without jargon and trying to stay kind and hopeful). That's the theory, anyway- and since the internet is probably the primary source of educated people's current health information- and since there are few or no comprehensive and readable sites aimed at the intelligent, literate patient, I think CZ can really serve a good purpose here. That's my pitch! Nancy Sculerati 11:47, 2 May 2007 (CDT)

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