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I'm not sure I regard social science research such as [[Philip Zimbardo]]'s [[Stanford Prison Experiment]], or [[Stanley Milgram]]'s experiments on obedience, as "medical". Clearly, they were social science research. | I'm not sure I regard social science research such as [[Philip Zimbardo]]'s [[Stanford Prison Experiment]], or [[Stanley Milgram]]'s experiments on obedience, as "medical". Clearly, they were social science research. | ||
They are troubling because they did provide information of value to society, but, especially in the Prison Experiment, with unexpected trauma to the research volunteers. The volunteers did give informed consent, and the investigators disclosed the risks of which they were aware. I consider it inconceivable that an [[Institutional Review Board]] would grant permission for related studies, based on what was learned, but these experiments clearly fall into a totally different category than Nazi "experiments", the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment, etc. in which there was no informed consent and often a certainty of harm to the subject. | They are troubling because they did provide information of value to society, but, especially in the Prison Experiment, with unexpected trauma to the research volunteers. The volunteers did give informed consent, and the investigators disclosed the risks of which they were aware. I consider it inconceivable that an [[Institutional Review Board]] would grant permission for related studies, based on what was learned, but these experiments clearly fall into a totally different category than Nazi "experiments", the [[Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment]], etc. in which there was no informed consent and often a certainty of harm to the subject. | ||
Most of the Nazi experiments were badly designed, and, even if there had been consent, would have produced no data of benefit to the subjects or society; they were often exercises in sadism. The series of experiments on hypothermia, however, while murderous to the subjects and done without consent, are judged by some contemporary scientists to have produced meaningful data. Is it ethical to use data produced by such an atrocity, if that data -- not repeating the experiment -- has the potential of helping hypothermia victims? | Most of the Nazi experiments were badly designed, and, even if there had been consent, would have produced no data of benefit to the subjects or society; they were often exercises in sadism. The series of experiments on [[hypothermia]], however, while murderous to the subjects and done without consent, are judged by some contemporary scientists to have produced meaningful data. Is it ethical to use data produced by such an atrocity, if that data -- not repeating the experiment -- has the potential of helping hypothermia victims? Some argue that data is forever tainted, while others say that putting it to good use honors the horrors visited on the subjects. | ||
[[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 18:08, 6 May 2008 (CDT) | [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 18:08, 6 May 2008 (CDT) | ||
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Is "medical" ethics the right term?
I'm not sure I regard social science research such as Philip Zimbardo's Stanford Prison Experiment, or Stanley Milgram's experiments on obedience, as "medical". Clearly, they were social science research.
They are troubling because they did provide information of value to society, but, especially in the Prison Experiment, with unexpected trauma to the research volunteers. The volunteers did give informed consent, and the investigators disclosed the risks of which they were aware. I consider it inconceivable that an Institutional Review Board would grant permission for related studies, based on what was learned, but these experiments clearly fall into a totally different category than Nazi "experiments", the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment, etc. in which there was no informed consent and often a certainty of harm to the subject.
Most of the Nazi experiments were badly designed, and, even if there had been consent, would have produced no data of benefit to the subjects or society; they were often exercises in sadism. The series of experiments on hypothermia, however, while murderous to the subjects and done without consent, are judged by some contemporary scientists to have produced meaningful data. Is it ethical to use data produced by such an atrocity, if that data -- not repeating the experiment -- has the potential of helping hypothermia victims? Some argue that data is forever tainted, while others say that putting it to good use honors the horrors visited on the subjects.
Howard C. Berkowitz 18:08, 6 May 2008 (CDT)