Talk:Engineering

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Engineering 'branches' -v- 'fields' -v- 'types' -v- 'disciplines'

I don't wish to engage in a semantical discussion whether the types of engineering should be called 'branches', 'fields', 'types' or 'disciplines', but I thought in unwise to have a section entitled "Major branches", then have a page expanding upon it entitled "Fields of engineering". So, I changed the name of the 'expansion page' to "Branches of engineering".

My thoughts are we should use the term 'disciplines' to describe the various types of engineering, but I am not fussed if one of the other terms are used.

Andrew Fleisher 01:07, 29 April 2007 (CDT)

Why is this list of types of engineering so sacrosanct?

I question why a comprehensive list of types of engineering should not be an integral part of the "Engineering" page. I don't think such a list should be relegated to a separate page. Though I agree the separate page would be a good place to give a brief description of each kind of engineering, even the principal ones.

I also question what is so sacrosanct about the list of types of engineering in a U.S. National Society of Professional Engineers FAQ. Their list isn't even a formally issued document of the Society. (At least, such a formal list is not cited.)

Other organisations, e.g. The Institution of Engineers Australia, have their own lists. See http://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/careers/career-disciplines/engineering-disciplines_home.cfm

So, I suggest additional types of engineering should be added to the Engineering page, and have done so myself.

Andrew Fleisher 00:38, 29 April 2007 (CDT)

• Telecommunications Engineering is missing as a subgroup. I believe it should be listed Juan J. Zubeldia 02:27, 21 November 2006 (CST)

• So, who else is interested in polishing Engineering and Engineer up a bit and put it into shape? --Jochen Wendebaum

• I could use the same reasons to justify the maintanance of these topics separate. Marcelo Matos, 6 January 2007

Merging Engineer with Engineering

I think Engineering should be the main topic. An Engineer is (presumably) someone who practices Engineering. This seems to me to be "the right way round" and much better than saying that Engineering is what someone who calls him/herself an Engineer actually does. In English Engineering is quite unequivocal, whereas Engineer can also mean someone who drives a train or tends to a major piece of machinery.

• While I do agree with you that an engineer is someone who practices engineering, not all engineering is done by engineers. Its kind of like all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares. Anyone who uses physical science to create something useful (or not lol) has committed the act of "engineering". In most States/Provinces the words "Engineer" and "Engineering" are protected under statute, so a person who is not a registered engineer with a PE or PEng designation cannot advertise themselves as being able to do engineering work or call themselves an engineer, but this is in a legal sense in order to avoid public confusion. I do not believe the term engineering should be merged with Engineer.--Brandon Turcotte 20:38, 14 February 2007 (CST)

Post WP deletion: fresh start

Whatever was there before has gone and we have a blank sheet. I've done a bit to get the ball rolling. Richard Lamont 14:00, 28 January 2007 (CST)

New to article

• I'm new to this citizendium thing and have added some items before I found this talk page. For future reference I will consult this forum before making any additions or changes. Sorry guys.  :)--Brandon Turcotte 20:40, 14 February 2007 (CST)

Structure of Engineering Portal

Please, I need sugestions to improve this portal. The main topics I sugest are the following.

• History & etimology

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Basic cleanup done?	Yes
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Software engineering

I do not see Software egnineering mentioned anywhere on this page. I would think we need to add that topic. Charles F. Radley 17:18, 17 June 2007 (CDT). One criterion might be to recognize here branches of engineering which are recognized by some government agency. Software Engineering is recognized and regulated by the U.S. State of Texas, for example.Charles F. Radley 17:26, 17 June 2007 (CDT)

• Done! Andrew Fleisher 17:57, 17 June 2007 (CDT)