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Analogies: George Osborne, not Gideon Oliver Osborne; Ulysses S. Grant, not Hiram Ulysses Grant; Gerald Rudolph Ford, not Leslire Lynch King Jr. It seems to be standard practice to use current, not original, names. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] ([[User talk:Peter Jackson|talk]]) 04:44, 8 August 2022 (CDT) | Analogies: George Osborne, not Gideon Oliver Osborne; Ulysses S. Grant, not Hiram Ulysses Grant; Gerald Rudolph Ford, not Leslire Lynch King Jr. It seems to be standard practice to use current, not original, names. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] ([[User talk:Peter Jackson|talk]]) 04:44, 8 August 2022 (CDT) | ||
As WP has now deleted the link, here it is:[https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/59418/page/8744]. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] ([[User talk:Peter Jackson|talk]]) 04:22, 7 September 2022 (CDT) | |||
== Secretary/Minister == | == Secretary/Minister == | ||
The current use of terminology here is confusing. For the most part, we have Secretaries of State, who are in the cabinet, and Ministers of State, who aren't. Sometimes, an SoS has a number of different MoSs under them, who would then have different titles, but sometimes you ,must have cases where the X Secretary has the X Minister as a subordinate. In such a case, calling the former by the latter title would be egregious. For consistency they should all be referred to by their actual titles (in short form of course). [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] ([[User talk:Peter Jackson|talk]]) 04:57, 8 August 2022 (CDT) | The current use of terminology here is confusing. For the most part, we have Secretaries of State, who are in the cabinet, and Ministers of State, who aren't. Sometimes, an SoS has a number of different MoSs under them, who would then have different titles, but sometimes you ,must have cases where the X Secretary has the X Minister as a subordinate. In such a case, calling the former by the latter title would be egregious. For consistency they should all be referred to by their actual titles (in short form of course). [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] ([[User talk:Peter Jackson|talk]]) 04:57, 8 August 2022 (CDT) | ||
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Name
WP links the (official) London Gazette giving her name as Elizabeth Mary Truss. Are there sources showing she sometimes still uses her original name MET? If not, then I think it should say something like EMT (originally MET). Also might menetion her married name O'Leary, which she doesn't use in politics (if at all). Peter Jackson (talk) 04:42, 8 August 2022 (CDT)
Analogies: George Osborne, not Gideon Oliver Osborne; Ulysses S. Grant, not Hiram Ulysses Grant; Gerald Rudolph Ford, not Leslire Lynch King Jr. It seems to be standard practice to use current, not original, names. Peter Jackson (talk) 04:44, 8 August 2022 (CDT)
As WP has now deleted the link, here it is:[1]. Peter Jackson (talk) 04:22, 7 September 2022 (CDT)
Secretary/Minister
The current use of terminology here is confusing. For the most part, we have Secretaries of State, who are in the cabinet, and Ministers of State, who aren't. Sometimes, an SoS has a number of different MoSs under them, who would then have different titles, but sometimes you ,must have cases where the X Secretary has the X Minister as a subordinate. In such a case, calling the former by the latter title would be egregious. For consistency they should all be referred to by their actual titles (in short form of course). Peter Jackson (talk) 04:57, 8 August 2022 (CDT)