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2018

Getting started

Let us start slowly with the two articles listed below. Plan on voting on Thursday, January 18, 2018. Keep discussion in this section.

Previously nominated article for consideration: Cowdray House

I just looked through the Cowdray House article and was impressed by the degree of detail and apparent scholarship involved. On the other hand, I couldn't see any *obvious* reasons about why this *lengthy* article was created. And I'm very much of an "inclusionist" in general -- if someone wants to write an article about anything except the most *trivial* item, then I'm for it. I then looked at the Wikipedia article about the same subject. I truly *hate* to say this, but I think the WP article is far superior. It is nowhere near as lengthy, but at least in the *first* paragraph it tells us WHY this ruin is noteworthy. And it leaves OUT a lot of minute details, so that the more *important* ones can be discerned by a reader whose interest in the subject is very close to zero. I certainly would not vote to *remove* this article, but, as you can tell, I have a notable lack of enthusiasm for it. Hayford Peirce (talk) 01:13, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

This appears to me to be a good article, comprehensive without being over-specialised. If I suddenly took an interest in Cowdray House, it would, I think, tell me much of what I wanted to know, and the bibliography would give further guidance. I have checked one or two of the facts, in the course of which I discovered that William Fitzwilliam was one of the great figures of Henry VIII's reign whom hardly anyone pays any attention to. The links in the references are working. The Related Articles sub-page had nothing on it, but I have added some links on the basis of the metadata. I think the article could be approved. --Martin Wyatt (talk) 17:34, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

I certainly yield to your expertise on this subject but I wonder if we, as Editors here to pass judgment on articles, can do any editing to the said articles *before* judging them? For instance, in the Cowdray House article, one of my pet bugaboos, "which" being used incorrectly instead of "that" jumps out at me in the very first line. Can I change that? Also, I *do* think that this lede paragraph from Wikipedia definitely conveys more important information than the far longer CZ lede.

Cowdray House consists of the ruins of one of England's great Tudor houses, architecturally comparable to many of the great palaces and country houses of that time....It was largely destroyed by fire on 24 September 1793, but the ruins have nevertheless been Grade I listed.

Can I add some of that info to *our* lede, or must we leave it the way it is? In any case, if the consensus of the two others is that this article should be approved, I shall certainly not stand in the way. Hayford Peirce (talk) 20:32, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Previously approved article for re-evaluation: Acid rain/Citable Version

I understood this article. The main bar to my understanding was the use of the word "species" in relation to aluminium, but I got the drift. The article also corrected some misunderstandings of the issue that I had previously. More than that I cannot say. --Martin Wyatt (talk) 19:00, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Discussion Anthony.Sebastian (talk) 00:34, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

About the Committee

The Approvals Committee is responsible for the assessment of Citizendium articles. Members also use the discussions page.

The Committee comprises two Editors and one Author. Since January 2018 its members have been:

• Hayford Peirce (Editor)
• Anthony.Sebastian (Editor)
• Martin Wyatt (Author)

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