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::This isn't actually engraved in stone, but it seems to be the consensus. Glad to see that we have new articles to talk about! [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 05:00, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
::This isn't actually engraved in stone, but it seems to be the consensus. Glad to see that we have new articles to talk about! [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 05:00, 16 March 2010 (UTC)


:::It is not spelled out in the CZ guidelines and there is no CZ style guide. Oxford Style Guide specifically states there should be a space between initials, Chicago Manual of Style states there should be equal space between both the initials and surname. [[User:Meg Ireland|Meg Ireland]] 23:42, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
:::It is not spelled out in the CZ guidelines and there is no CZ style guide, although moving to adopt spaces between personal initials was discussed as a naming convention [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=CZ_Talk:Naming_conventions&diff=next&oldid=100543106]. Oxford Style Guide specifically states there should be a space between initials, Chicago Manual of Style states there should be equal space between both the initials and surname. [[User:Meg Ireland|Meg Ireland]] 23:42, 16 March 2010 (UTC)


::::I might myself prefer [[Z.Q.Splerdge]] or  [[Z. Q. Splerdge]] to the present [[Z.Q. Splerdge]], but on my archived talk page (which for some reason insists on being too large for the screen) Hayford pointed out that previous examples had the one central space. This echoes the appearance of two-word names, but looks unbalanced compared with ZQS or Z.Q.S. Perhaps we do indeed need some official guidelines. [[User:Ro Thorpe|Ro Thorpe]] 00:39, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
::::I might myself prefer [[Z.Q.Splerdge]] or  [[Z. Q. Splerdge]] to the present [[Z.Q. Splerdge]], but on my archived talk page (which for some reason insists on being too large for the screen) Hayford pointed out that previous examples had the one central space. This echoes the appearance of two-word names, but looks unbalanced compared with ZQS or Z.Q.S. Perhaps we do indeed need some official guidelines. [[User:Ro Thorpe|Ro Thorpe]] 00:39, 17 March 2010 (UTC)


:::::A guideline like that is something that falls within the purview of the Editorial Council (EC). [[User:Meg Ireland|Meg Ireland]] 00:43, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::A guideline like that is something that falls within the purview of the Editorial Council (EC). [[User:Meg Ireland|Meg Ireland]] 00:43, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

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CZ naming conventions

Hi, John, glad to see you being as industrious as 7 or 8 bees!

We do argue about this from time to time, but there is a general consensus (also spelled out somewhere in the guidelines) that for a name like this it is written, particularly in the article's title Initial dot no-space second initial dot space Last Name. Take a look, for instance, at P.G. Wodehouse, a fine Brit! (There are other examples, but I'll have to track them down if you want me to.) Hayford Peirce 03:39, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi Hayford. I've no problem with the convention and I'll use it in future. All part of the learning curve.  :-) --John Leach 03:44, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
This isn't actually engraved in stone, but it seems to be the consensus. Glad to see that we have new articles to talk about! Hayford Peirce 05:00, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
It is not spelled out in the CZ guidelines and there is no CZ style guide, although moving to adopt spaces between personal initials was discussed as a naming convention [1]. Oxford Style Guide specifically states there should be a space between initials, Chicago Manual of Style states there should be equal space between both the initials and surname. Meg Ireland 23:42, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
I might myself prefer Z.Q.Splerdge or Z. Q. Splerdge to the present Z.Q. Splerdge, but on my archived talk page (which for some reason insists on being too large for the screen) Hayford pointed out that previous examples had the one central space. This echoes the appearance of two-word names, but looks unbalanced compared with ZQS or Z.Q.S. Perhaps we do indeed need some official guidelines. Ro Thorpe 00:39, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
A guideline like that is something that falls within the purview of the Editorial Council (EC). Meg Ireland 00:43, 17 March 2010 (UTC)