User talk:Sharon Mooney

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Welcome to the Citizendium! We hope you will contribute boldly and well. Here are pointers for a quick start, and see Getting Started for other helpful "startup" links, our help system and CZ:Home for the top menu of community pages. You can test out editing in the sandbox if you'd like. If you need help to get going, the forum is one option. That's also where we discuss policy and proposals. You can ask any user or the editors for help, too. Just put a note on their "talk" page. Again, welcome and have fun! --Larry Sanger 15:28, 23 February 2007 (CST)

Picture

Hi Sharon, welcome again--regarding Image:Oldest carbon life.jpg, is that something that you have the copyright to? If so, can you please include the copyright info & permission/license so we can be sure we can use it? --Larry Sanger 17:11, 23 February 2007 (CST)

Hi. Yes, I have the legal right to use and redistribute this particular image. Foremost would be the fair use in copyright law, but second, an image like this one was modified / colorized through an image editing program (Adobe Photoshop) -- in other words, it has been modified to enough of an extent, when held to the original nobody would be mistaken -- it is not the same image. *smile*) so it's different than the one I based the image on. Due to modifications, though "similar" to the original, it's my own image. Technically, I can't use it for commercial purposes of my own. That would be unethical, but it can be used for educational purposes legally, and of course all respective credits intact. --Sharon Mooney 18:47, 23 February 2007 (EST)

"I am not a lawyer," but surely we cannot with good sense justify use of entire, decent-quality images via the doctrine of "fair use," since we're redistributing images to the entire world. We aren't making a copy for use in a college course, or taking a small quotation from a whole book and putting it in another publication--we're taking an entire, decent-quality image of the same sort that was copyrighted by the original source. That's why I don't buy the use of "fair use" with respect to any but very small reproductions, and maybe not even then.

I also don't buy the argument that because you have modified an image, it is therefore yours. If I make a copy of a picture I found in Time magazine, and photoshop it, that obviously doesn't make the picture mine. It makes it an altered version of Time magazine's picture.

Proper authorization would take the form of actual permission from the copyright holder. --Larry Sanger 18:31, 23 February 2007 (CST)

I could try to email National Geographic and get permission to use the one in the book (they would refuse to acknowledge the one I submitted, because it was modified) or, I can provide an original trace and colorization of the image. That in fact, would truly be my image. Would that be acceptable? I am an artist afterall. Although, even if I hand-design an image, if I base it on another person's art or photography, I still provide respective credits, not to mention it offers credibility. --Sharon Mooney 19:35, 23 February 2007 (EST)

Either of the things you suggest would be fine, I think. --Larry Sanger 18:47, 23 February 2007 (CST)

Traced a new image, splashed some color -- used some texture effects and blur to try to make it as realistic as possible. There shouldn't be any mistake now who created the image. I hope it looks good enough to others for the page. I would be happy to help out on art and images any time contributors really need them for support material in articles, (when my schedule permits). They only need to contact me. I'm a fairly good photographer, can do microscopy photos and video and, original art by sketch. --Sharon Mooney 20:47, 23 February 2007 (EST)

Great to see another author interested in the Origin of life. Cheers David Tribe 19:31, 23 February 2007 (CST)

Thanks for the welcome David. --Sharon Mooney 20:49, 23 February 2007 (EST)

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Thanks for your inquiry...from 2007-02-23 23:40:00-06 to 2007-02-24 00:40:00-06 (database notation) I was doing some backend database work. "Lost" revisions are now restored.

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