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I intend to maintain this article on Citizendium. I wrote 100% of it for Wikipedia during 2006. [[User:Louis F. Sander|Louis F. Sander]] 10:35, 22 April 2007 (CDT)
I intend to maintain this article on Citizendium. I wrote 100% of it for Wikipedia during 2006. [[User:Louis F. Sander|Louis F. Sander]] 10:35, 22 April 2007 (CDT)


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According to [http://www.seaturtle.org/mtn/archives/mtn35/mtn35p5.shtml an article in the Marine Turtle Newsletter], prepared in part by a widely published biologist from the Institute of Marine Sciences at the University of North Carolina,  
According to [http://www.seaturtle.org/mtn/archives/mtn35/mtn35p5.shtml an article in the Marine Turtle Newsletter], prepared in part by a widely published biologist from the Institute of Marine Sciences at the University of North Carolina,  
:"The first reported successful nesting of a green turtle, Chelonia mydas, on the U.S. Atlantic coast north of Florida occurred in 1980 (Schwartz et al., 1981). That year a female (109.4 cm CCL) deposited 819 eggs in five nests on Onslow Beach, Camp Lejune, North Carolina (Table 1). Tagged with IMS metal flipper tag 669, she returned in 1985 and deposited 893 eggs in five nests on the same stretch of Onslow Beach."
:"The first reported successful nesting of a green turtle, Chelonia mydas, on the U.S. Atlantic coast north of Florida occurred in 1980 (Schwartz et al., 1981). That year a female (109.4 cm CCL) deposited 819 eggs in five nests on Onslow Beach, Camp Lejune, North Carolina (Table 1). Tagged with IMS metal flipper tag 669, she returned in 1985 and deposited 893 eggs in five nests on the same stretch of Onslow Beach."
[http://www.seaturtle.org/cgi-bin/imagelib/index.pl?photo=309 A free photo] of another female seaturtle laying eggs on Onslow beach is available on that same site.
[http://www.seaturtle.org/cgi-bin/imagelib/index.pl?photo=309 A free photo] of another female seaturtle laying eggs on Onslow beach is available on that same site.  And [http://www.seaturtle.org/cgi-bin/imagelib/index.pl?photo=310 on her way back to the water].


According to [www.senate.gov/~armed_services/statemnt/2001/010320eh.pdf a statement] by Major General Edward Hanlon Jr., "During the May through October sea turtle nesting season, eggs are removed from a one-mile stretch of Onslow Beach daily and placed in an incubator. The hatched turtles are later released." [[User:Joe Quick|--Joe Quick]]  ([[User talk:Joe Quick|Talk]]) 17:17, 23 May 2007 (CDT)
According to [http://www.senate.gov/~armed_services/statemnt/2001/010320eh.pdf a statement] by Major General Edward Hanlon Jr., "During the May through October sea turtle nesting season, eggs are removed from a one-mile stretch of Onslow Beach daily and placed in an incubator. The hatched turtles are later released." [[User:Joe Quick|--Joe Quick]]  ([[User talk:Joe Quick|Talk]]) 17:17, 23 May 2007 (CDT)
 
:Nice find! [[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 17:24, 23 May 2007 (CDT)
 
==here's something==
It appears that there was a staged practice invasion of Cuba at Onslow Beach a short 19 days after the end of the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962.  See page 61 [http://books.google.com/books?id=Lb6bQ69fGgYC here].  [[User:Joe Quick|--Joe Quick]]  ([[User talk:Joe Quick|Talk]]) 20:56, 23 May 2007 (CDT)
 
:Wowzers. I bet there are ''many'' interesting tid-bits like this avialable. [[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 23:44, 23 May 2007 (CDT)
 
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Alright, I am ''probably'' about done, unless there is a desire to move this to approval, in which case I'll get working again. This has been a rather interesting learning experience. [[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 01:01, 24 May 2007 (CDT)

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I intend to maintain this article on Citizendium. I wrote 100% of it for Wikipedia during 2006. Louis F. Sander 10:35, 22 April 2007 (CDT)

This is a stub, at best. Unless we think we can say nothing more interesting about Onslow Beach, which then raises the question whether it is possible for stub-length articles can in fact be complete--which is an interesting problem. According to Article Deletion Policy, this article is not only not developed, it could be deleted precisely because it is only 49 words long. I don't propose that we delete it, but the issues it raises are interesting and worth discussing. --Larry Sanger 21:02, 20 May 2007 (CDT)

Well, it's significantly better now. --Larry Sanger 17:05, 22 May 2007 (CDT)

Here is some good history on the place: http://www.nps.gov/archive/wapa/indepth/extContent/usmc/pcn-190-003115-00/sec2a.htm

This is interesting: http://www.onslowcountytourism.com/

Here is a start:

The eventual selection of Onslow Beach as military training location began in late 1940 and early 1941 at Marine Corps headquarters. With new requirments for manpower stemming from U.S. interests during World War II, the Corp projected that "new species" of units and defense battalions would be needed to garrison forward bases. The increased demand for manpower would also mean an increased need for training facilities.

One among several of the chosen sites was Onslow County North Carolina's New River area, which a military World War II historian as "111,170 acres of water, coastal swamp, and plain, theretofore inhabited largely by sand flies, ticks, chiggers, and snakes." After the U.S. Congress funded construction for what is not Camp Lejeune on 15 February 1941, it activated on less then three months later as a tent camp.

Stephen Ewen 02:34, 23 May 2007 (CDT)

Sunset photo

  1. Why is it there?
  2. What are "miliatry uses?"
  3. How does a photo of a sunset show that the beach is "clearly not just for" them? Louis F. Sander 09:08, 23 May 2007 (CDT)

Broken Gallery

The gallery is nice, but there are images on the thumbnail array that aren't in the gallery, and images in the gallery that aren't on the thumbnail array. Louis F. Sander 15:20, 23 May 2007 (CDT)

I finished it up. Stephen Ewen

endangered species

According to an article in the Marine Turtle Newsletter, prepared in part by a widely published biologist from the Institute of Marine Sciences at the University of North Carolina,

"The first reported successful nesting of a green turtle, Chelonia mydas, on the U.S. Atlantic coast north of Florida occurred in 1980 (Schwartz et al., 1981). That year a female (109.4 cm CCL) deposited 819 eggs in five nests on Onslow Beach, Camp Lejune, North Carolina (Table 1). Tagged with IMS metal flipper tag 669, she returned in 1985 and deposited 893 eggs in five nests on the same stretch of Onslow Beach."

A free photo of another female seaturtle laying eggs on Onslow beach is available on that same site. And on her way back to the water.

According to a statement by Major General Edward Hanlon Jr., "During the May through October sea turtle nesting season, eggs are removed from a one-mile stretch of Onslow Beach daily and placed in an incubator. The hatched turtles are later released." --Joe Quick (Talk) 17:17, 23 May 2007 (CDT)

Nice find! Stephen Ewen 17:24, 23 May 2007 (CDT)

here's something

It appears that there was a staged practice invasion of Cuba at Onslow Beach a short 19 days after the end of the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962. See page 61 here. --Joe Quick (Talk) 20:56, 23 May 2007 (CDT)

Wowzers. I bet there are many interesting tid-bits like this avialable. Stephen Ewen 23:44, 23 May 2007 (CDT)

Marker

Alright, I am probably about done, unless there is a desire to move this to approval, in which case I'll get working again. This has been a rather interesting learning experience. Stephen Ewen 01:01, 24 May 2007 (CDT)