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"The Reform Act of 1832 enabled Quakers to stand for Parliament." I don't think that's right. I can't see anything in [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Uq0uAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA154&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false the Act] about this. I don't think there was ever a law against Quakers in Parliament, but strict ones wouldn't take the oath required for taking seats. Affirmation was admitted as an alternative by the Oaths Act 1888, though that was a response to the case of Charles Bradlaugh, not Quakers. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] ([[User talk:Peter Jackson|talk]]) 09:01, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
"The Reform Act of 1832 enabled Quakers to stand for Parliament." I don't think that's right. I can't see anything in [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Uq0uAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA154&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false the Act] about this. I don't think there was ever a law against Quakers in Parliament, but strict ones wouldn't take the oath required for taking seats. Affirmation was admitted as an alternative by the Oaths Act 1888, though that was a response to the case of Charles Bradlaugh, not Quakers. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] ([[User talk:Peter Jackson|talk]]) 09:01, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
:My wording is probably incorrect.  The information I have, admittedly from an author whom I have detected in more than one historical mistake, is that affirmation enabled Quakers to enter the House of Commons in 1832.  Bradlaugh's case, as an atheist, was slightly different.  I will see what more I can find.  --[[User:Martin Wyatt|Martin Wyatt]] ([[User talk:Martin Wyatt|talk]]) 13:09, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
:My wording is probably incorrect.  The information I have, admittedly from an author whom I have detected in more than one historical mistake, is that affirmation enabled Quakers to enter the House of Commons in 1832.  Bradlaugh's case, as an atheist, was slightly different.  I will see what more I can find.  --[[User:Martin Wyatt|Martin Wyatt]] ([[User talk:Martin Wyatt|talk]]) 13:09, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
:I find this in ODNB:  "After the passing of the Reform Bill in 1832, Joseph Pease was elected MP for South Durham, and retained the seat until his retirement in 1841. He was the first Quaker member to sit in the House of Commons, and on presenting himself on 8 February 1833 he refused to take the usual oath. A select committee was appointed to inquire into precedents, and on 14 February he was allowed to affirm."  I will adjust accordingly.  --[[User:Martin Wyatt|Martin Wyatt]] ([[User talk:Martin Wyatt|talk]]) 13:41, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

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This article has ground to a halt while I try to gather information on Scotland and Ireland, for which I am lacking materials. Any help gratefully received. --Martin Wyatt 19:39, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

"The Reform Act of 1832 enabled Quakers to stand for Parliament." I don't think that's right. I can't see anything in the Act about this. I don't think there was ever a law against Quakers in Parliament, but strict ones wouldn't take the oath required for taking seats. Affirmation was admitted as an alternative by the Oaths Act 1888, though that was a response to the case of Charles Bradlaugh, not Quakers. Peter Jackson (talk) 09:01, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

My wording is probably incorrect. The information I have, admittedly from an author whom I have detected in more than one historical mistake, is that affirmation enabled Quakers to enter the House of Commons in 1832. Bradlaugh's case, as an atheist, was slightly different. I will see what more I can find. --Martin Wyatt (talk) 13:09, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
I find this in ODNB: "After the passing of the Reform Bill in 1832, Joseph Pease was elected MP for South Durham, and retained the seat until his retirement in 1841. He was the first Quaker member to sit in the House of Commons, and on presenting himself on 8 February 1833 he refused to take the usual oath. A select committee was appointed to inquire into precedents, and on 14 February he was allowed to affirm." I will adjust accordingly. --Martin Wyatt (talk) 13:41, 28 August 2016 (UTC)