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Nobody seems to think this is necessary. I would be willing to change my vote to reject and get rid of it unless some rewording was presented. D. Matt Innis 19:31, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

See my comment on Article 2. This article should make a statement protecting Citizens' rights, but it doesn't. Not really. I suggest this, a slight modification of Jones' statement regarding Article 2:

• No citizen's use of the site shall be blocked or terminated on the basis of nationality, race, religion, creed, gender, profession, education, residence, or age.
  • Exceptions may be made only in very limited circumstances when required under local law.

How's that? -Joe Quick 00:34, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

• No citizen's use of the site shall be blocked or terminated on the basis of nationality, race, religion, creed, gender, profession, education, residence, or age.
  • Exceptions may be made only in very limited circumstances and only when legally required.

D. Matt Innis 00:41, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Agree. D. Matt Innis 19:35, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Yep, that's better. Agree to Matt's version. -Joe Quick 00:57, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I did a lot of work on Article 2 towards the same end. I'll have to reconcile. Russell D. Jones 15:52, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Do they need to be separate articles? -Joe Quick 18:20, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Russell, I'm looking for any reconciling. D. Matt Innis 19:35, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Whoops! Sorry--I got side tracked with the judiciary. Russell D. Jones 00:36, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Overlap with art. 2 and 41. --Daniel Mietchen 19:54, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

After another look, I would prefer to keep

Citizenship shall be open to anyone who fulfills the basic conditions as defined by the Management Council and agrees to the policy principles defined by this Charter.

in article 2 and to move

Citizens shall not have their application to join or their use of the site blocked or terminated on the basis of their nationality, ethnicity, race, religion, creed, gender, sexuality, profession, education, politics, residence, age, name, or URL. Nor shall any official or governing body of the Citizendium discriminate in favor or against Citizens (except to the degree that such discrimination promotes editorial expertise), or any dispute be resolved, on the basis of any of these criteria.

from there to here, replacing the current art. 3 text entirely. --Daniel Mietchen 22:48, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Good idea. Agree. D. Matt Innis 00:28, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Agree. Added Joe's suggestion to add politics. Russell D. Jones 12:00, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Agree with that, too. D. Matt Innis 12:08, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Really, Matt? you'd sanction someone for their politics? Russell D. Jones 12:17, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Haha, No, but we don't want to give YOU the chance to, lol! D. Matt Innis 12:21, 22 July 2010 (UTC)