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WHY on Earth would anyone call this a "zero state" solution? It still leaves Israel as a state. [[User:Sandy Harris|Sandy Harris]] 12:02, 30 October 2010 (UTC) | WHY on Earth would anyone call this a "zero state" solution? It still leaves Israel as a state. [[User:Sandy Harris|Sandy Harris]] 12:02, 30 October 2010 (UTC) | ||
:Maybe because the Palestinians get no state out of it? I don't know, but the term does soom to be in use. The article on the [[Israel-Palestine Conflict]] explains more, as does the talkpage there. [[User:David Finn|David Finn]] 13:49, 30 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Sandy, you ask why a nonsensical name is used? As my grandfather would have said, you are talking about the Middle East. | |||
::Dave has a good first impression. Two state and one state both recognize a Palestinian identity; one-state integrates them into Israel while two state allows separate nations based on identity. Zero state denies there is any Palestinian identity. | |||
::It sounds as if we need a full article on zero state, certainly not just a lemma. I would suggest, though, putting the discussion under [[Talk: Israel-Palestine Conflict]] until and unless there's a specific zero state article. | |||
::Flow suggestions on Israel-Palestine are badly needed. I've started moving historical background to subarticles, as the present version doesn't let a reader get quickly to current issues. In the short term, though, I'm not sure how much work I will be doing on CZ. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 20:19, 30 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 15:19, 30 October 2010
WHY on Earth would anyone call this a "zero state" solution? It still leaves Israel as a state. Sandy Harris 12:02, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- Maybe because the Palestinians get no state out of it? I don't know, but the term does soom to be in use. The article on the Israel-Palestine Conflict explains more, as does the talkpage there. David Finn 13:49, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- Sandy, you ask why a nonsensical name is used? As my grandfather would have said, you are talking about the Middle East.
- Dave has a good first impression. Two state and one state both recognize a Palestinian identity; one-state integrates them into Israel while two state allows separate nations based on identity. Zero state denies there is any Palestinian identity.
- It sounds as if we need a full article on zero state, certainly not just a lemma. I would suggest, though, putting the discussion under Talk: Israel-Palestine Conflict until and unless there's a specific zero state article.
- Flow suggestions on Israel-Palestine are badly needed. I've started moving historical background to subarticles, as the present version doesn't let a reader get quickly to current issues. In the short term, though, I'm not sure how much work I will be doing on CZ. Howard C. Berkowitz 20:19, 30 October 2010 (UTC)