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==Archived some heat, and starting afresh==
There's certainly room to improve this article. Arguments that were getting a bit far afield of the article are still available in Archive 1.


== Why did you delete most of the text in the Internet architecture section? ==
I should note that I did not create this article, although I made some corrections, especially in the history. It certainly could flow better from the lede, into something other than development, and continue. 


Howard,
Several other articles either can be linked, or even have text moved here. [[Convergence of communications]] is a very broad look at applications.  [[Internet Protocol Suite]] has major infrastructure and a certain amount on architecture. There are numerous articles on IP/IPv4/IPv6, IP addressing, routing, and routing protocols.


Most of the material in the Internet architecture section is deleted. Why did you do that? [[User:Dan Nessett|Dan Nessett]] 17:34, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
What should be where?  How can we improve what is here?  Is anything here in error? [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 18:39, 22 September 2009 (UTC)


: Hmm. This is a mystery. I just looked at the history of the article and it doesn't look like Howard deleted anything. And yet, the text is now missing. I will contact CZ admins for some help with this. [[User:Dan Nessett|Dan Nessett]] 17:57, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
== Explanation of history ==


::See my note on Matt's talk page. [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 18:19, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
This page was the first version of "Internet", then moved to "[[Development of internet]]".


== Newsgroups ==
I have moved the newly created page "Internet" to [[Internetworking]] thereby replacing a ''copy'' of the page.
The corresponding discussion can be found in [[/Archive 1]], but since it has been copied instead of moved,
the history can be found on this talk page.


In the first paragraph, newsgroups/usenet should be mentioned along with email and ftp.
I have moved back the first version, and the associated talk page to [[/Archive 2]]
(I don't add it myself, so that noone can claim I added content in case of an approval.)
[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 01:21, 19 September 2009 (UTC)


:Done. [[User:Dan Nessett|Dan Nessett]] 03:38, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 22:33, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 
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== Need to expand section on history of the Internet ==
 
In some side conversations, it is noted that an article on the Internet would benefit from a discussion of its history. This would include a discussion of the technologies that led up to the internet as well as a discussion of the technologies used currently. This is a reasonable point and deserves discussion. So, let me open the discussion in this section. Those who have an opinion on this issue are hereby invited to provide it here. [[User:Dan Nessett|Dan Nessett]] 04:31, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 
: I will start this conversation by providing my view. I would expect that an article named '''Internet''' would provide a broad overview of the subject. This includes its history, its structure and its uses. I think the article would benefit from an expansion of the history section, but I think the level of detail in the article [[Development of the Internet]] is inappropriate for a high-level article. So, my position is those who are interested in expanding the history section should summarize the material in the [[Development of the Internet]] article and place that summary in the history section of the Internet article. Some have suggested rolling back the Internet article to the old material (which was renamed [[Development of the Internet]]). I am opposed to this because it misrepresents the meaning of the article title (i.e., '''Internet'''). If an article with the title '''Jet Planes''' contained only a detailed description of their history and no description of their design and use, I would say the article is misnamed. By the same argument, I think an article titled '''Internet''' that only discusses its development is misnamed. [[User:Dan Nessett|Dan Nessett]] 04:48, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

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 Definition:  International "network of networks" that connects computers together through the Internet Protocol Suite and supports applications like Email and the World Wide Web. [d] [e]
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Archived some heat, and starting afresh

There's certainly room to improve this article. Arguments that were getting a bit far afield of the article are still available in Archive 1.

I should note that I did not create this article, although I made some corrections, especially in the history. It certainly could flow better from the lede, into something other than development, and continue.

Several other articles either can be linked, or even have text moved here. Convergence of communications is a very broad look at applications. Internet Protocol Suite has major infrastructure and a certain amount on architecture. There are numerous articles on IP/IPv4/IPv6, IP addressing, routing, and routing protocols.

What should be where? How can we improve what is here? Is anything here in error? Howard C. Berkowitz 18:39, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Explanation of history

This page was the first version of "Internet", then moved to "Development of internet".

I have moved the newly created page "Internet" to Internetworking thereby replacing a copy of the page. The corresponding discussion can be found in /Archive 1, but since it has been copied instead of moved, the history can be found on this talk page.

I have moved back the first version, and the associated talk page to /Archive 2

Peter Schmitt 22:33, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

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