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I think this demonstrates wikipedia is feeling the effects of its anyone can scribble on anything policy. It also demonstrates that we do not have the luxury of sitting on our duffs and waiting for the world to finally agree that CZ is the place to contribute. Changing wikipedia's culture of scribble might be hard, but it is not impossible. We have to innovate and keep ahead if we want to survive. [[User:Dan Nessett|Dan Nessett]] 16:16, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
I think this demonstrates wikipedia is feeling the effects of its anyone can scribble on anything policy. It also demonstrates that we do not have the luxury of sitting on our duffs and waiting for the world to finally agree that CZ is the place to contribute. Changing wikipedia's culture of scribble might be hard, but it is not impossible. We have to innovate and keep ahead if we want to survive. [[User:Dan Nessett|Dan Nessett]] 16:16, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:Do you suggest CZ could follow and create an academic journal or perhaps do something different? [[User:Meg Ireland|Meg Ireland]] 14:07, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
:: My original thought was working with the proposer at the above cited web page. However, that was because he had the initiative and seemed willing to do the necessary work. If someone was willing to do the work at CZ, I think it would merit consideration. This is probably something that should be brought up soon, since the charter drafting committee may wish to factor such a possibility into their restructuring work. [[User:Dan Nessett|Dan Nessett]] 16:36, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
:::I would like to see CZ involved here and would be willing to put considerable effort into the endeavour but I think CZ is understuffed for this kind of activities (as is Scholarpedia, which might be an even better fit for the idea). A better partner for the journal would probably be an Open Access publisher like PLoS. I have argued thus in the comments to the proposal and [http://fundscience.org/blog/2009/08/science-publishing-on-the-fast-lane-plus-optionally-in-journals/ elsewhere] and would like to see others voice their opinion. --[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 18:29, 6 October 2009 (UTC)


== Potential partner for biological taxonomy ==
== Potential partner for biological taxonomy ==


"The [http://www.ohio.edu/phylocode/ PhyloCode] is a formal set of rules governing phylogenetic nomenclature. It is designed to name the parts of the tree of life by explicit reference to phylogeny. The PhyloCode will go into operation in a few years, but the exact date has not yet been determined. It is designed so that it may be used concurrently with the existing codes based on rank-based nomenclature (ICBN, ICZN, etc.). We anticipate that many people whose research concerns phylogeny will find phylogenetic nomenclature advantageous." Given that the [[CZ:Biology Workgroup]] has not yet arrived at a consensus on how to name articles about taxonomic entitities (especially species), this may be a good resource to look at. --[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 13:47, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
"The [http://www.ohio.edu/phylocode/ PhyloCode] is a formal set of rules governing phylogenetic nomenclature. It is designed to name the parts of the tree of life by explicit reference to phylogeny. The PhyloCode will go into operation in a few years, but the exact date has not yet been determined. It is designed so that it may be used concurrently with the existing codes based on rank-based nomenclature (ICBN, ICZN, etc.). We anticipate that many people whose research concerns phylogeny will find phylogenetic nomenclature advantageous." Given that the [[CZ:Biology Workgroup]] has not yet arrived at a consensus on how to name articles about taxonomic entitities (especially species), this may be a good resource to look at. --[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 13:47, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 13:29, 6 October 2009

This is the talk page for the Wishlist item: Establish Relationship with External Organization.

Wikipedia proposal to establish scholarly journal to attract contributors

Daniel supplied the following link:

Proposal for a wikipedia journal

I think this demonstrates wikipedia is feeling the effects of its anyone can scribble on anything policy. It also demonstrates that we do not have the luxury of sitting on our duffs and waiting for the world to finally agree that CZ is the place to contribute. Changing wikipedia's culture of scribble might be hard, but it is not impossible. We have to innovate and keep ahead if we want to survive. Dan Nessett 16:16, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Do you suggest CZ could follow and create an academic journal or perhaps do something different? Meg Ireland 14:07, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
My original thought was working with the proposer at the above cited web page. However, that was because he had the initiative and seemed willing to do the necessary work. If someone was willing to do the work at CZ, I think it would merit consideration. This is probably something that should be brought up soon, since the charter drafting committee may wish to factor such a possibility into their restructuring work. Dan Nessett 16:36, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
I would like to see CZ involved here and would be willing to put considerable effort into the endeavour but I think CZ is understuffed for this kind of activities (as is Scholarpedia, which might be an even better fit for the idea). A better partner for the journal would probably be an Open Access publisher like PLoS. I have argued thus in the comments to the proposal and elsewhere and would like to see others voice their opinion. --Daniel Mietchen 18:29, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Potential partner for biological taxonomy

"The PhyloCode is a formal set of rules governing phylogenetic nomenclature. It is designed to name the parts of the tree of life by explicit reference to phylogeny. The PhyloCode will go into operation in a few years, but the exact date has not yet been determined. It is designed so that it may be used concurrently with the existing codes based on rank-based nomenclature (ICBN, ICZN, etc.). We anticipate that many people whose research concerns phylogeny will find phylogenetic nomenclature advantageous." Given that the CZ:Biology Workgroup has not yet arrived at a consensus on how to name articles about taxonomic entitities (especially species), this may be a good resource to look at. --Daniel Mietchen 13:47, 6 October 2009 (UTC)