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=archived everything; starting over=
I have archived previous discussions, since I totally reorganized [[Computer]], sending most of the old stuff either to [[Computer architecture]] or to [[History of computing]] (new article).[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] 17:14, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
 
=question about microprocessor computing=
a rapid evolution can also be changed into revolution, and if we talk about microprocessor computing we do talk about the digital revolution. Any objection to changing that part? [[User:Robert Tito|Robert Tito]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;<span style="background:black">&nbsp;<font color="red"><b>[[User talk:Robert Tito|Talk]]</b></font>&nbsp;</span> 17:52, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
 
::I'm not sure what you're asking, but edit what you think best.  I'd recommend avoiding getting too detailed about technology, however.  Perhaps that discussion would belong better in [[history of computing]], which hopefully will have a breakdown of developments by decade.[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] 17:57, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
 
:::P S - I wouldn't want to use a phrase like "digital revolution" without first explaining it.  I think in terms of my grandmother--could she read what I wrote and get anything out of it?  If not, it's too "jargony".  That's my corny standard, anyways.[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] 18:19, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
::: the rapid change of society is called the digital revolution, sorry for anybody but that is the generally accepted term for tha]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;<span style="background:black">&nbsp;<font color="red"><b>[[User talk:Robert Tito|Talk]]</b></font>&nbsp;</span> 18:23, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
 
::::OK; can we put the definition in parentheses right after the first occurence of the term?[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] 18:29, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
 
:::::I reworded yours just a bit.  Would you care to take a stab at writing [[digital revolution]]?  Sounds like a complete article to me![[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] 18:34, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
 
=why can't I mark this as NOT from Wikipedia?=
When I uncheck the "from Wikipedia" on this article, it has no effect.  This article is no longer anything like the original brought from Wikipedia.  Someone please help![[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] 17:59, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
 
Pat, Jason is one of the few that can change it. Send an e-mail to constables@citizendium.org with the request. [[User:Robert Tito|Robert Tito]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;<span style="background:black">&nbsp;<font color="red"><b>[[User talk:Robert Tito|Talk]]</b></font>&nbsp;</span> 18:06, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
 
:Thanks!  I just did so.[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] 18:18, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
 
=applications archived here temporarily=
I don't yet know where (if at all) to include [[Talk:Computer/Applications|this stuff]].
 
==Shannon==
Who added shannon to the computer page? His major contribution to computer science if the definition of shannon information. When a document contains NO shannon information - after being acted upon by an enigma - no link can be obtained from the resulting document to its original. A shannon enigma is seen as the perfect enigma where encryption comes to be important. Not many know about this person as he made his major contributions in the 1940's and a few in the 1950's - well before encryption engines were available wiht the depth and speed we have now. [[User:Robert Tito|Robert Tito]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;<span style="background:black">&nbsp;<font color="red"><b>[[User talk:Robert Tito|Talk]]</b></font>&nbsp;</span> 18:53, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
 
::Robert, I'll have to double-check my facts, but I believe that Shannon (in addition to his well-known work in information theory) made the crucial connection between boolean algebra and "switching algebra".  Without that, none of the circuits in a CPU could have ever been made to work with their current level of complexity.  Or maybe my memory deceives me and it was someone else?  I'm afraid I have to completely dispute your claim that "not many know about this person".  Try a google.[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] 18:58, 23 April 2007 (CDT)

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