Talk:Korematsu v. United States

Related articles

While I've been focused on more recent aspects and haven't given extensive coverage to the Japanese internment, let me mention a set of evolving new articles that I've posted; I cite this article at the middle level:

• Extrajudicial detention
  • Extrajudicial detention, U.S.
    • Extrajudicial detention, U.S., George W. Bush Administration

There's a parallel hierarchy of:

• Interrogation
  • Intelligence interrogation, U.S.
    • Intelligence interrogation]]

These replace earlier articles that were U.S.-centric at the top of the hierarchy. You'll also find a number of supporting articles, not so much for this one but universal jurisdiction, international extradition, and extraordinary rendition. I know we need to get something on Posse Comitatus Act. Howard C. Berkowitz 16:21, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I did nominate the article for CZ:Article of the Week.Howard C. Berkowitz 22:40, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Re the edit from "Japanese Internment" to "Extrajudicial detention, U.S., Japanese internment" -- While I get the logic behind the change, wouldn't it be preferable to have article titles that are as close to the terms people might use in keyword searches? Shamira Gelbman 23:38, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I'd rather have the title be the hierarchical one, but be sure to have the search terms in redirects. Howard C. Berkowitz 00:42, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

But there are multiple ways to devise article hierarchies around concepts like "Japanese internment," and it's not clear why one should take precedence over the others in article naming. For example, while the Japanese internment is clearly a subtopic of extrajudicial detentions in the US (which is in turn a subtopic of extrajudicial detentions in general), it's at least as clearly a subtopic of civil rights violations in the US (which would be a subtopic of civil rights violations in general, which in turn would be a subtopic of civil rights). It seems, then, that the article title should be the simple label with (potentially multiple) hierarchical titles in redirects. Shamira Gelbman 01:05, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree there can be multiple hierarchies; it's just not obvious to me that one simple core title is more obvious than others, so "Japanese internment" is as arbitrary as any. "Japanese detention". "Relocation of West Coast Japanese". All are plausible; pick one is about all I can say. Howard C. Berkowitz 02:47, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I'd go with "Japanese internment" -- it's by far the most common label I've come across. Shamira Gelbman 03:00, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I can live with that as long as we have the redirects. Did you want to set something up under "civil rights" related articles, even as redlinks? I've done a MOVE such that Japanese internment should be the primary title, with redirect from extrajudicial detention, U.S., Japanese internment. Note that EO9066 is a subpage under it. Howard C. Berkowitz 03:11, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Parent article

The lead infers Japanese interment, but that's a little vague. What would encompass both the internment and legal issues? Some thoughts:

• Extrajudicial detention, U.S., WWII Japanese internment
• Second World War, U.S., interment of persons of Japanese interment

I'm trying to be factual, not editorializing in the title; I'll also be doing an article on the 442nd Regimental Combat Team. There may indeed be links, at the higher hierarchical, to the dynamics of U.S.-Japanese relations, not just combat, but diplomatic issues (e.g., the embargo after expansion into French Indonesia and even vignettes such as Guy Gabaldon. Howard C. Berkowitz 22:40, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm still kind of fuzzy on the guidelines for creating hierarchies of articles. Is there supposed to be just one "parent"? It seems to me both of your suggestions make sense, as might something about SCOTUS cases, or more narrowly, SCOTUS cases dealing with civil rights/liberties. Shamira Gelbman 22:09, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Nawww, we aren't too biological; we accept any number of parents. For that matter, it's no sin to have parent articles that are illustrative, where one is actually the parent of another.

I hadn't thought of a SCOTUS civil liberties article, but that's a good idea. I don't think we have all our SCOTUS articles pointing there; perhaps there should be a SCOTUS catalog subpage listing cases, possibly by type. Catalogs are useful for things too large or complex for the Related Article structure. Howard C. Berkowitz 22:16, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

From the "aftermath" section

This bit of text from the article's last section would probably be more suited to an article about the Japanese internment more generally rather than the Korematsu case in particular. I'm moving it here until that page is developed:

The Congress passed the Japanese American Evacuation Claims Act to provide compensation to Japanese properties damaged during the "relocation". In 1980 the Congress opened an investigation to the internment program and a report titled "Personal Justice Denied" was written. The report condemned the "relocation" and the Korematsu court decision. In 2001, the PBS broadcast a Eric Paul Fournier film Of Civil Wrongs and Rights in memory of the Japanese internment and the Korematsu litigation.

Shamira Gelbman 22:43, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

The above paragraph can move into Japanese internment, an article that is still rough. If you like, I'll make the move so the Editor relationships can stay clear. Howard C. Berkowitz 03:13, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. Shamira Gelbman 03:20, 3 July 2009 (UTC)